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Post by svtubamom on Jan 5, 2014 16:03:24 GMT -5
Read elsewhere that the CM will be featured during the Opie season. Can anyone confirm that?
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Post by dovecote on Jan 5, 2014 17:48:18 GMT -5
Where did the rumor come from? A 'reputable' source? Can you ask for more information? I would so much love it to be true, no matter what her situation. I'd be glued to the TV. Thank you for posting it.
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 5, 2014 18:20:22 GMT -5
The only thing that they are saying is: "a strong rumor that Disco is filming the CM for opies". (Which is backing off a bit from their original statement. At this point, I have read it at couple of sites but we know how those things can be. That is the reason why I asked here. This site has the more accurate and more "insider" info than any of the other sites.
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Post by crabber on Jan 6, 2014 15:27:58 GMT -5
I also read on other sites that DC was filming the CM. I do not know if it's true.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jan 6, 2014 15:57:40 GMT -5
I would bet dollars to doughnuts its true. Its Josh we're talking about.
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 6, 2014 16:24:11 GMT -5
I really hope that this is not true. I truly believe that if Josh is very serious about fishing, then he should do it for a year or two without cameras. Otherwise, he is only doing it to be a "tv star" and this would be the proof. The CM hasn't been featured in a couple of years and DC has still gone on.
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Post by jacourt on Jan 6, 2014 16:30:05 GMT -5
Very disappointing if Disco caved. My mute button will get a work out this year.
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Post by sssyjackson on Jan 6, 2014 16:49:50 GMT -5
I hope it's true.
I've read a lot of posts spitting nothing but "Harris hate", and I think it's unfounded. I don't understand why people want so badly for the Harris brothers to be off the show. You can say Josh is just in it for the air time, but I really don't think that's true.
I'm sure there's some part of him that loves the fame, who wouldn't? But I think it has probably been a long difficult journey for him to get ownership of the CM, and IMHO it would take more than just wanting to be on tv to supply the motivation to stick with it.
I would love the opportunity to see the story come full circle. I believe that when the CM first appeared on DC, it was actually Josh's first season crab fishing (I am probably wrong, but thought he had only done other fisheries until the CM's debut). I would really like to see him succeed- and I mean actually see it, as in watch it on DC...
I fell in love with Phil almost instantly on that damn show. I couldn't even bring myself to watch the show for almost 2 years after he died, because it was too sad without him. This past season was my first season back, and I think the way they ended the season was just too exciting and joyful for the to leave me out of the story now! (Referring to Josh owning the CM).
It's selfish I know, and I know I sound like I'm talking about how I would want my favorite tv drama to end, but don't we all want to see the happy ending?
It just seems to me that everyone is ready to write off the Harrises as a couple of n'er do wells, but I think there is more to them than that. Don't forget, they are still young, and some of our most precious captains were still f***ing up plenty in their younger years, there just wasn't a show for us to witness it... uh... second hand?
I think ultimately Jake and Josh will end up on top, of life I mean, and in regards to fishing as well, whether or not there are crews around to film it. And I certainly wish them nothing but the best. I would just prefer that I get to watch it happen, because that way I feel like I can rejoice with them when they triumph. Lord knows I've witnessed enough tragedy in their lives... Can you blame me, or any other "fangirl", for wanting to see them on their feet and doing well? For wanting to see them make their father proud?
I'm sorry for all of you "haters"... Even with the other boats and crew. Some people really spit nothing but venom at Elliot, Keith, Jr, you name it. It seems out of line with the whole show to me. DC had always been a show of triumph and positivity, courage in the face of danger, and daring to take risks. At the end of every season I feel joy for those men for a job well done, for making it home safe.
These men, and certainly the Harris brothers, give us a glimpse into their work, but also into their personal lives. DC lets us feel as though we've been through the happiness and the heartache with them, and to not follow the CM to whatever the future has in store for her feels like too abrupt an ending for me.
Sorry if this seemed overly sentimental. I always adored Phil, and have always rooted for his sons.
That's just my two cents.
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 6, 2014 20:35:28 GMT -5
I hope it's true. I've read a lot of posts spitting nothing but "Harris hate", and I think it's unfounded. I don't understand why people want so badly for the Harris brothers to be off the show. You can say Josh is just in it for the air time, but I really don't think that's true. I'm sure there's some part of him that loves the fame, who wouldn't? But I think it has probably been a long difficult journey for him to get ownership of the CM, and IMHO it would take more than just wanting to be on tv to supply the motivation to stick with it. I would love the opportunity to see the story come full circle. I believe that when the CM first appeared on DC, it was actually Josh's first season crab fishing (I am probably wrong, but thought he had only done other fisheries until the CM's debut). I would really like to see him succeed- and I mean actually see it, as in watch it on DC... I fell in love with Phil almost instantly on that damn show. I couldn't even bring myself to watch the show for almost 2 years after he died, because it was too sad without him. This past season was my first season back, and I think the way they ended the season was just too exciting and joyful for the to leave me out of the story now! (Referring to Josh owning the CM). It's selfish I know, and I know I sound like I'm talking about how I would want my favorite tv drama to end, but don't we all want to see the happy ending? It just seems to me that everyone is ready to write off the Harrises as a couple of n'er do wells, but I think there is more to them than that. Don't forget, they are still young, and some of our most precious captains were still f***ing up plenty in their younger years, there just wasn't a show for us to witness it... uh... second hand? I think ultimately Jake and Josh will end up on top, of life I mean, and in regards to fishing as well, whether or not there are crews around to film it. And I certainly wish them nothing but the best. I would just prefer that I get to watch it happen, because that way I feel like I can rejoice with them when they triumph. Lord knows I've witnessed enough tragedy in their lives... Can you blame me, or any other "fangirl", for wanting to see them on their feet and doing well? For wanting to see them make their father proud? I'm sorry for all of you "haters"... Even with the other boats and crew. Some people really spit nothing but venom at Elliot, Keith, Jr, you name it. It seems out of line with the whole show to me. DC had always been a show of triumph and positivity, courage in the face of danger, and daring to take risks. At the end of every season I feel joy for those men for a job well done, for making it home safe. These men, and certainly the Harris brothers, give us a glimpse into their work, but also into their personal lives. DC lets us feel as though we've been through the happiness and the heartache with them, and to not follow the CM to whatever the future has in store for her feels like too abrupt an ending for me. Sorry if this seemed overly sentimental. I always adored Phil, and have always rooted for his sons. That's just my two cents. Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a "hater". I still believe that Josh is doing all of this because of the show and not because he wants to be a fisherman. Phil, himself, said that Josh came aboard because of the show and to get his face on tv. I still feel that if Josh is serious about fishing, then do it without DC filming it for a year or so. I have felt like Josh has rode Phil's coattails. I loved Phil and I cried the day he had the stroke, cried even harder when he passed and then cried even harder when it aired. I loved Phil but that does not mean that I love his son. Josh has done people wrong in the pass concerning the CM. What he did to Derek Ray when he was captain and also what was done to Freddie. Josh had no intention of fishing, he just wanted to be out long enough to film. He tried to trash Derek Ray's reputation-the captains basically sided with Derek concerning that situation. The lack of crabbing also effected every man on that boat-they did not make as much as they should. I enjoyed DC last season when they quit showing Josh so much and talking to him. I am just sick of Josh Harris acting like he is the only person to have lost a parent and that it is owed to him that DC continue to show him. I must have missed the Harris brothers working. Seems like they were a little more on the "slacker" end or my dad owns the boat and I don't have to do the work. I am so over the Harris boys. I would love to know how the other boats that have been featured are doing. If the rumor is true, then I will use my mute button more or I will have to dvr it so I can fast forward through Josh and Eliott.
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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 6, 2014 20:44:00 GMT -5
I'm with you, SVtubamom. I don't hate the Harris "boys" (they are grown men) at all. Josh is only in it to be on TV, not to fish or learn about fishing. If it was about the fishing, he would be on the boat whenever possible and learning everything he could about all the fisheries. That's not the case though. I've not seen anything about Jake being clean, so hopefully they don't have him on a boat.
A tribute to their father would be becoming good fishermen and working for it. Being on a TV show is no tribute to Phil's legacy.
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Post by doder on Jan 6, 2014 21:19:34 GMT -5
I've read a lot of posts spitting nothing but "Harris hate"
don't confuse "hate" with disgust. jake is a self indulgent spoiled doper little brat. josh is a lazy opportunistic self centered con artist.
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Post by Maribegood on Jan 7, 2014 0:00:51 GMT -5
sssy,
I can't think of a single person on this board who hates the Harris brothers. I think a lot of us have been disgusted by their ACTIONS, as doder and company indicated. For me personally, I would love nothing more than to see Jake clean and healthy, and I would like to see the CM be a successful vessel. Deep down, I don't think Josh Harris wants to fish. I think the combination of his lack of a HS diploma, the opportunity DC gives, and some misplaced feelings of "legacy" has convinced him this is the best way.
For the record, the Harris brothers behavior with Derek Ray was shameful. If you had watched the first season after Phil died, you would understand why a lot us don't cut the Harris's slack as fishermen. I, personally, cut them a little more slack as human beings. If you read about their childhoods, you can develop an understanding of why Jake Harris may need to kill pain through drug use. Also, some of his shadiness aside, I give Josh Harris NOTHING but my respect and admiration for the way he put Phil's mind to rest over his parenting when Phil asked Josh's forgiveness for his shortcomings as a father.
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Post by sssyjackson 2stillme on Jan 7, 2014 2:44:04 GMT -5
I admit I may have read previous posts and misinterpreted the sentiment, and misrepresented it as "hate" as opposed to disgust, and I apologize for that.
You are also right that I didn't watch the seasons after Phil's passing until season 9. It seems I missed a lot of things in regards to the behavior of the Harris brothers. ( Would like to take a moment to address that I never referred to them as "boys" - I know they are men, and fully responsible for their actions). The last episode I watched was Phil's final episode. It was too much, too real, I honestly thought I would never watch again.
I came back to the show just in time for Jake Anderson's wedding, I wanted to see him be happy, always thought he was the sweetest kid... uh, I know he's probably the same age as me, but somehow he always manages to be the kid brother of the show...
In the interim, I would read only blurbs here and there on the internet, more or less to make sure all the fishermen were safe, and aside from hearing that there were a couple of new skippers on the CM that didn't work out, I had no idea that there was any drama on the boat at all.
I just thought Jake got caught with pot and was fired, and the next I hear he's in rehab!
I'll admit again here, that I just stopped digging for info... It was ugly to hear that Jake had a drug problem, and aside from hoping he was okay, I knew there was nothing I could do, so I turned my eyes away.
I know you will probably give me crap for being a fair weather fan, but I just couldn't watch the Harrises and the CM implode like that. Of all the captains, I always loved Phil the most, and I just didn't want to witness his sons fail.
So more I come in at this past season, and basically see nothing of Josh and only hear Jake's name intermittently, and I still have my idealized image of them as the remaining rough and tumble members of a fishing family trying to climb out of a hole they dug themselves. And I really want them to make it out of the hole!
Also of note, I'm pretty naive when it comes to these damn shows. I usually take what Disco presents to me at face value. I'm a ridiculously trusting person - I don't expect them to make drama where there isn't any, or to portray people in ways that aren't true through clever editing... Stupid, I know. I'm a really honest person, and just sort of expect everyone else to be just as honest. I'm a sucker that way, and somehow can't shake it.
So when Disco paints the Harris brothers as these underdogs from the wrong side of the tracks just fighting for their moment to shine, I kinda buy it... okay, I'm wrong, but not having seen Josh and Jake burn the bridges you guys talk about, it's hard for me to see them as anything else.
Clearly I'm uninformed on the subject, which means I probably should just keep my opinion to myself until such a time that I have acquired all necessary facts...
STILL, that said, I still hope to see a happy ending for the Harrises... I want to see them grow up, apologize where they need to, mend friendships, and become the men of integrity that I believe they can be.
Who knows? It's probably that damn unrelenting idealist that believes that the Harrises are now becoming the men we always wanted them to be... Men more like the Hillstrands and Hansens... Because, well, that would be the perfect fairytale ending. And I want everyone to have their fairytale ending.
Truth is, you guys are probably right, and if they end up on the show it will most likely do nothing but sully this bizarre image I have of them, and they are nothing but a couple of a**hats, but a girl can dream...
I guess the real reason I want the Harrises on the show is because I wanted to watch their metamorphosis into something better, but the truth is, it probably hasn't happened yet...
SIDE NOTE: in reference to all crab fishermen, (not the Harrises) is it crazy that I feel like these guys are like the Knights of the Freakin Round Table of our day?! Seriously, watching the boats come in at the end of a season, especially the NW because she's white, is like watching sir Gallahad riding in on his mighty steed. No one can deny that the NW is majestic as all get out.
PS. really am sorry if I put words in other people's mouths with the "hate" thing. I just have nothing but positive things to say about the boats and their men (and women! I've heard there's women on those boats sometimes too! And not just wives!), and it's hurtful to me when I read negative things about any of them. Even Capt. Keith :-)
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Post by sssyjackson3 on Jan 7, 2014 2:59:24 GMT -5
And Anita, you're right, being on a tv show is no way to honor Captain Phil's legacy.
I want them to actually honor Phil's legacy by becoming men and developing a little integrity... I want them to make Phil proud. Hell, I want them to make their friends, family, and fans them and the show proud.
I just want to watch it on a tv show...
;-)
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Post by seasick on Jan 7, 2014 5:44:02 GMT -5
I dislike the Harris brothers as much as anyone else, but just a few words in their defence. 1) Yes, they are in it for the cameras, but with the notable exceptions of Norm Hansen and Neil Hillstrand, so is everyone else on the show. 2) Manufactured drama? So is the majority of the rest of the stuff on the show. 3) Cooperation with Disco is probably the only way they can finance the boat. Who else would want to trust their money to these guys?
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Post by bentwillow on Jan 7, 2014 9:44:02 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the Harris boys but I would like to see what has happened to them over the course of the year. Is Jake clean?? Has Josh found a goal in life? It would be interesting to find out.
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Post by crabber on Jan 7, 2014 12:44:28 GMT -5
Meribegood - I agree with you that Josh has few options due his lack of education and perhaps his misguided idea of "legacy". However as you said, reading the book on Phil's life it's amazing they came out half way normal. The saw their father drink and use drugs almost every day of their lives. They were taken from their mother at ages 5 & 7 1/2 and never saw her for 15 years. They were physically and verbally abused by their step-mother. Phil show beyond poor judgement in leaving his kids with her. While he loved his kids it seemed in the book he did not know how to deal with being a father. Phil was fired for being found drunk in the wheel house. Tony Lara quit because of his drinking. Jake obviously inhert. his substance abuse problems. Josh has always been a tv hound who loved the publicity and attention. Jake maybe less so. While they may like the publicity, DC exploited them for everything it was worth when Phil died. I think they took advantage of them and Phil at their weakest. I don't think anyone would want to be filmed while they watch their father die. All the captains are in it for the money. They all sell anything and everything they can. DC has always stretched the truth and done anything for ratings. The CM on the show now is just OP being OP. If Josh makes it - good for him. If not, he will have only himself to blame. Sorry for the long ramble. I hope everyone has a healthy and happy new year.
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Post by nannyb on Jan 7, 2014 16:17:50 GMT -5
I really fear that Jake is so far gone that if someone doesn't take control of him, physically and emotionally, he will meet a tragic end and that far too young. As to Josh, I think he could be successful except for the fact that he doesn't want to work -- something we see in a lot of young people these days; too much handed to them. I believe both of them would have done better if they had never been on TV. I do wish them both the best And I would love to see the CM again.
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Post by rosered74 on Jan 9, 2014 14:13:09 GMT -5
i have no problem with CM being on the show, but their better be a captain and not josh harris running things. to me, getting back on tv is proof josh is in it for tv time and have no idea if jake is clean or not, hope he is. i personally dont hate them, but tired of their mugs on tv. and why i will most likely FF through their tv time.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jan 9, 2014 19:24:22 GMT -5
I'm not at all impressed by J and J. I am sorry about their tough childhood and all but I grew so bored with the whole legacy thing and fake fishing. I lost all respect when they treated Derrick Ray so badly. That said..although I wouldn't miss them if they went away, if they are featured on the show again, I know I'll get sucked back into watching the drama. That's what DC and the Harris bros. are banking on.
I saw a tweet from Travis who is on the CM for opies. He wouldn't come out, when asked, and say they are being filmed but posted a pic of an Original Productions legal doc. (just the letterhead) so... I think ol Travis is kind of fond of the limelight as well.
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Post by doder on Jan 9, 2014 19:29:56 GMT -5
I saw a tweet from Travis who is on the CM for opies. He wouldn't come out, when asked, and say they are being filmed but posted a pic of an Original Productions legal doc. (just the letterhead) so... I think ol Travis is kind of fond of the limelight as well. /photo/1 make of it what you will. there are not dates shown. travis is pimping a "cook book" with his brother and need to keep the "buzz" going.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jan 9, 2014 21:21:22 GMT -5
I saw a tweet from Travis who is on the CM for opies. He wouldn't come out, when asked, and say they are being filmed but posted a pic of an Original Productions legal doc. (just the letterhead) so... I think ol Travis is kind of fond of the limelight as well. /photo/1 make of it what you will. there are not dates shown. travis is pimping a "cook book" with his brother and need to keep the "buzz" going. Off topic but I wonder why he is telling Lynn Guittard to stay strong and that he is proud of him. Hmmm
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Post by Maribegood on Jan 10, 2014 1:46:46 GMT -5
Well, I don't watch Travis for his brains, so I wouldn't mind small doses of him. Anything that might trim down Elliot face time....
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Post by jacourt on Jan 10, 2014 8:44:23 GMT -5
Is Junior still recuperating from his back surgery? If that is the case then they need some known faces. I just hope it not Josh making believe he is the captain. If they were out there just to fish he would not have said, when Disco first turned them down, that he was looking into alternative shows. When the Disco Gravy Train is over there is going to be plenty of fall out for some people.
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Post by crabber on Jan 10, 2014 14:38:02 GMT -5
Anyone know if Jake is on the CM ? Read on another site it has the same crew and in King Crabs.
Casey McManus had to know what he was getting into when he took the job of captain. It will be interesting to see if Josh is calling all the shots. Or, DC wants to make it out to seem that way. It will be interesting to see how DC puts a spin on this one. A lot of boats will be in for a shock when the cash cow ends.
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Post by crabber on Jan 10, 2014 14:40:11 GMT -5
Anyone know if Jake is on the CM ? Read on another site it has the same crew and in King Crabs.
Casey McManus had to know what he was getting into when he took the job of captain. It will be interesting to see if Josh is calling all the shots. Or, DC wants to make it out to seem that way. It will be interesting to see how DC puts a spin on this one. A lot of boats will be in for a shock when the cash cow ends.
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Post by crabber on Jan 10, 2014 15:30:47 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post - my PC was acting up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2014 13:44:08 GMT -5
Anyone know if Jake is on the CM ? Read on another site it has the same crew and in King Crabs. Casey McManus had to know what he was getting into when he took the job of captain. It will be interesting to see if Josh is calling all the shots. Or, DC wants to make it out to seem that way. It will be interesting to see how DC puts a spin on this one. A lot of boats will be in for a shock when the cash cow ends. I talked quite a bit with Casey when he took over the CM. He told me then that Josh could not run the CM because he could not get insured due to his inexperience. Casey's plan was to train Josh for "a couple of years" until he could get enough experience to be able to be insured. I haven't talked to him much since then,and have not heard for sure if they have a DC crew on for opies. I know that last summer they were talking to "someone in Hollywood".
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Post by crabber on Jan 11, 2014 14:32:17 GMT -5
King Cove - thank you. You are always a source of creditable information. We always look forward to the information you provide.
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Post by Dove on Jan 11, 2014 15:45:39 GMT -5
SIDE NOTE: in reference to all crab fishermen, (not the Harrises) is it crazy that I feel like these guys are like the Knights of the Freakin Round Table of our day?! Seriously, watching the boats come in at the end of a season, especially the NW because she's white, is like watching sir Gallahad riding in on his mighty steed. No one can deny that the NW is majestic as all get out. No sssy, you are not alone. I love to see them triumphantly return with all the dramatic music. Victorious warriors who saved civilization. And at the head, the majestic Northwestern with all flags flying. I especially loved it when they had all the boats line themselves up at the beginning and arrive together. Remember when they lined up all the boats and filmed the bows from the side with the Captains at the front like mastheads? They don't seem to do that kind of thing any more, which is a shame. Or the boats pulling into their home ports with their families waiting. Without all that some of the romance is gone. I watch it anyway but I'm not as in love with it as I was. The loss of the actual Round Table at the ATC episodes is just a plain stupid move by Disco. I was in love with Josh and the Jakes too and now all that is gone. Jeez, I don't mean to be mournful! Time to get a perspective. More coffee....
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