legend of the northwestern

I really liked this. I hope they do it with the Time Bandit too.

I agree, it was great. It gave more insight into the Sig-Edgar dynamic. The usual older-younger brother competition, complicated by 1)Edgar's apparent difficulty in figuring out how to show Sig that he has truly moved beyond his drug use and is now trustworthy and reliable enough for the captain's chair, and 2) Sig's apparent inability to move beyond Edgar's drug use. Each seems to be waiting for the other to move first.

Before blue crab season last year, why didn't Edgar just call Sig and tell him that he wants to learn the process, from filing the necessary paperwork before the season starts and all the other steps that are needed to prepare the boat and crew for the season. And Sig could have called Edgar and asked if he wanted to help go through the process, knowing that Edgar wants to try his hand at being captain. That big blow-out scene on the bridge could have been avoided if one or the other reached out.

Families, especially those that are dealing with an addict, often have great trouble breaking behavior patterns. Sig bringing up that Edgar repeatedly let the boat down while he was using made it clear that that particular point is still quite fresh, no matter how many years Edgar has been a great engineer/deck boss since then.

It's pretty brave of them to be willing to air their dirty laundry like that.

Edgar may not be using drugs anymore, but not all of his behaviors have changed. When he was going to fish blue crab he never once called Sig and asked what he needed to do, he just expected that someone else would do it all for him. I love Edgar to bits but I can see exactly why that would drive Sig insane. It's a bad habit and I think if Edgar made the effort Sig would move on.

Sig was all "The boat comes first!" No, in this case your brother's health comes first.

We do not know what the conversations has been between Edgar and Sig regarding his recovery/atonement for his past. It has never been shown on tv, and those things should be private. Maybe Sig can never get over all the responsibility he had to take on due to Edgar's lack of support.
As for Jake A. - I think he knows he is lucky the NW took him back. I love Jake but he is too emotional, gets upset to easily and needs to mature more before he becomes a captain. Just because he has a license does not mean he is ready at this time to captain a boat. In time, I'm sure Jake A. will be a good captain.
Just saw on another site Josh just got his captain's license.

And what goes for Jake A goes for Josh. Just because you have your license it doesn't mean you are ready to BE a captain. Jake is a lot closer to it than Josh.

Well, Jake might be the better captain, but Josh has one thing that Jake doesn't: A boat. On the NW Sig and Edgar, and possibly also Norm, Mandy and Edgar's son, will be in front of Jake. (The fact that Norm doesn't want to captain it on camera, doesn't mean that he hasn't got off-camera ambitions.)

On the other hand, almost everyone here agrees that Josh wants to be on camera, and that he would probably do what the camera crew tells him to. I'm guessing that they want to him to take over the boat, so they can show him continuing his father's legacy. I'd be surprised if he's not captaiing next season or the season thereafter, at least as long as the cameras are filming.

This may be a little off-topic, but you know what I hear in Sig' voice everytime this subject comes up (and you guys know, I love Sig to pieces so I'm not really criticizing him)? Resentment, Sig as the eldest son of someone who apparently had no use for anything other than gruffness etc.


As some of you probably know, my 89 yr old maternal grandmother passed away recently after suffering advanced Alzheimer's. She lived with my mom, my step-dad & myself for 6 years while my mom & I with the help of hospice took care of her, she was bed-ridden for the last several months of her life due to a broken hip (she had broken both hips, left hip she broke day after Christmas & the right she broke almost a year to the day later), my mom & I took care of EVERYTHING, changing linens, changing diapers, feeding etc, of course Hospice took some of the burden off of us, but on the days that the nurse's aide didn't come (which was Wed, Fri & week-ends) we had to do the changing etc. For 6 years, whenever mom & my step-dad would go somewhere, guess who got left behind? yep, I got to 'baby-sit'

Whenever I talk to my dad on the phone, I hear the exact same tone in his voice, my paternal grandmother is not in good health either, my dad has been commuting between Clear Lake & East Tx every week, his brother, who lives with my grandmother in East Tx, is absolutely no help from what I hear, so dad's been doing everything & trust me, as some one who has been down the road he's now traveling, it's no fun. My uncle had a burst appendix several years back, had surgery & has never been the same since then, he has no insurance, can't work, too stubborn to go to a dr to get seen (he went to one once who put him on anti-depressants which made a world of difference, he was active, he interacted with people, but the meds made him gain weight like no one's business so he quit them. He sleeps all day every day.


The point to all this is, I can see where Sig may have unresolved resentment from the fact his dad expected so much from him, & don't get me wrong, those boys loved their dad no question, but I think Severre  did more harm than good when it comes to the more emotional side, as in I have a feeling that the only emotion those boys ever saw from him was anger.

sorry if this doesn't make much sense, I'm in pain & so I'm kind of out of it 

Thank you for your kind words Crabber, they mean alot 

Even though we were totally prepared for what was coming, it still was a shock, I wouldn't change anything about the past 6 years excepting I wish it had been Hospice that had found her that morning, her Nurse's aide was scheduled to come that day & I wish it had been her that had discovered her instead of my mother. My mother for weeks after had trouble sleeping due to it, it's better now, & we know she's in a better place, but still..

Yeah, I agree, Jake A. has some growing up to do if he's going to captain a boat, but then again, when things go pear-shaped out there, Sig has a bad habit of freaking out too (and I'm not talking about panic type freaking, I mean the screaming type freaking, God it's a wonder the camera guy can still hear anything at the end of a season on the NW ha ha  , I'd be deaf before the first trip was even finished & I can't hardly hear for squat now )soo maybe Jake A. isn't so different, though he DOES need a thicker skin & not take everything so personally as he is wont to do

Someone here mentioned the Blue Crab knock down drag out between Sig & Edgar, these guys don't talk to each other AT ALL during the off season??? I mean, I guess I can kind of see why, they see so much of each other during the season itself it's like "ahh off season, time off, don't wanna see your ugly mug again for a while" type deal but damn, they probably live like 2 blocks away from each other & they don't talk?? what's up there? 

Getting over the addiction of a family member is not an easy thing. No one here knows what Sig went through when Edgar was at his worst. I'm sure Sig is always waiting for the other shoe to drop - for Edgar to fall off of the wagon. It will take *years* of sobriety before Sig will be able to trust Edgar again, I'm sure.

We all can sit back and appreciate how well Edgar is doing. We didn't have to deal with his antics when he was using. The wounds Sig has acquired during Edgar's addiction are still open It will take more than a few years for those wounds to heal.

nwfan2014-Having lost both my parents I can say no matter how sick they are you are never prepared for when they pass. It is still a shock.

In regards to the Sig and Edgar thing-Sig is a control freak. Maybe due to the fact that he had to be responsible for everything when Edgar was using. However, on a different note, I do hope they see and speak to each other when not fishing. My best friend's mother and the mother's brother did not talk to each other for 25 years over an argument when my gf's grandmother died. When her mother was dying, my gf called their uncle(against their father's wishes) to let him know. When he got to the hospital she was in a coma and died shortly there after. He boohooed his head off and went on and on about not seeing each other. Life is too short to let stuff like that happen. Yes Edgar can fall off the wagon, but he has been clean and sober for a number of years. Addiction runs in my family(I have cousins who were addicts) so I know and have seen first hand how it affects families. However, Sig needs to lighten up and stop throwing it in Edgar's face when ever he gets mad. Sig could not run that boat without Edgar.