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Post by bentwillow on May 10, 2015 12:03:27 GMT -5
Time will tell. He is high on everyone's radar, including the Coast Guard. If he tests clean every time, he will prove himself. The first time he comes up dirty, he's toast, and possibly can endanger his own right to be even the lowest crewman on a boat. His license will evaporate, and I don't think the Coast Guard has do-overs. He has burned a lot of bridges in the Bering Sea. ...........except, what about Elliot?? I wonder how many times he has been tested??
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Post by seasick on May 10, 2015 12:23:05 GMT -5
Well, is this testing done by the Coast Guard/police or by the captain (ie Elliot himself)? I don't think we've seen the CG do any drug tests on any boat.
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Post by crabber on May 10, 2015 12:26:23 GMT -5
darianagle-Not sure what you mean. Last pictures I saw of him at Christmas(the ones with Josh) and the ones with his gf, he looked great. Jake is not a big guy, only 5'8" and what maybe 140 pounds at the most. I remember reading in an old people magazine article he started taking oxy for fishing injuries and old sports injuries. Truthfully, he is probably too small to do all that back breaking work on deck year after year. Although when he was clean he was able to do it, but I do remember him having back problems and he was only about 21.
Almost all of those guy have had substance abuse issues. Drug and alcohol use seems to be rampid among them. I would guess partly due to the stress on the body and also the lifestyle. Jake is not the only person to have this problem. Look at Jake A., Nick, Matt, John, Andy, Edgar and numerous others. They are all clean now. Phil was a flat out mess most of his life, and Jake obviously inhert. his addiction issues from Phil. Hopefully, Jake can maintain his soberity and work in the field he wants to, not what everyone wants or expects. Crabbing may not be the job he should continue in. And, Josh should know that Jake may not be physically capable of working on deck year after year. In truth, Josh would be better suited physically to work on deck. He is much bigger and stronger than Jake. However, I can't see him giving up the wheel to work on deck. Good question about the testing - I have no idea. BTW-Can you imagine Elliott doing the testing-lol.
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Post by bentwillow on May 10, 2015 14:52:22 GMT -5
Someone mentioned (I think it was King Cove but I could be wrong) that size has nothing to do with how well one did crab fishing. The job can destroy really big guys while some little guys have no trouble at all. Since Jake was a capable crab fisherman before his drug problems (and when he was much smaller) he probably could easily return to the job again and do it well.
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Post by crabber on May 10, 2015 17:56:13 GMT -5
Land Shark - Hah? Don't get what you mean.
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Post by Maribegood on May 10, 2015 22:29:45 GMT -5
Neither did I, so it's deleted.
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corey
Walking Docks For A Job
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Post by corey on May 26, 2015 12:10:08 GMT -5
Was trying to figure out the answer to the secret question on the Deadliest Catch game and saw this video on the website... it's of Josh and Casey talking about Josh backing past a bag. However, Josh is talking to a "Jake" whom is off camera and sounds suspiciously like Jake Harris. www.discovery.com/tv-shows/deadliest-catch/videos/put-er-in-reverse/
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Post by anitalalouise on May 26, 2015 13:03:27 GMT -5
Jake Jolibois (sp?) is on the CM as a deckhand, so it was probably him. Jake Harris has not been shown on the boat for a couple of years now during crab.
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Post by crabber on May 26, 2015 21:56:53 GMT -5
Corey - Jake J. fished King Crab this year. Jake Harris has not fished King Crab in 3 1/2 years. However, I have never played the DC game.
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Post by JESSE R.Newell on Jul 3, 2015 0:04:09 GMT -5
Jake you have hit bottom I believe you can get your shit together you are a great guy do it for you and you're brother make yourself proud and you're dad will be with you just do it you are yore own master yore own ruler you are the man GOD be with go foward be the man so others can follow I a n d alot of others believe in you the best life to you
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Post by crabber on Jul 3, 2015 17:03:54 GMT -5
Jesse-Jake has been clean for many months now.
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Post by scottsgirl on Jul 4, 2015 1:17:20 GMT -5
That's terrific news. Jake, I'm pulling for you.
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Post by svtubamom on Jul 6, 2015 10:55:00 GMT -5
I hope that Jake stays clean. Wish him the best in his life.
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Post by Beer dog on Jul 25, 2015 19:58:45 GMT -5
i can not believe all those that are cheering for jake Harris coming back to DC . A druggIe that stole his dads med's and gave him so much stress it caused his down fall.
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Post by nannyb on Jul 25, 2015 20:19:35 GMT -5
There but for the grace of God go I. I wish Jake the best also.
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Post by darianagle on Jul 25, 2015 21:37:27 GMT -5
i can not believe all those that are cheering for jake Harris coming back to DC . A druggIe that stole his dads med's and gave him so much stress it caused his down fall. That Stroke was heading Phil's way like a Runaway Express Train. ANYTHING could have brought it on Phil's neck Arteries were blocked up because of all the heavy doping, drinking and smoking he'd done over the years and were slowly turning to stone. He had Blood Pressure issues too, making things even worse. And he wasn't taking care of himself: remember all those Cigarettes and big, greasy Sandwiches? It was only a matter of time before a vessel in Phil's Brain finally "blew".... It could even have happened while he was "Celebrating" a Great Season! And Phil was no Dummy. He KNEW from Jake's lethargic behaviour that the kid was "Using" --Phil had been down that Road himself --but he still LOVED Jake and dreamed of seeing him one day "earn" the Captain's Chair just as he himself eventually did.
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Post by anitalalouise on Jul 26, 2015 6:08:39 GMT -5
Jake had nothing to do with Phil having a stroke. Like Darianagle said, Phil's health was awful way before Jake, the doctor had told him NOT to go back on the boat, he had issues with blood pressure, blood clots, and being generally unhealthy.
As to Jake being a 'druggie', it's my understanding he's clean now, not that calling him names even if he wasn't would be acceptable.
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Post by bentwillow on Jul 26, 2015 10:01:45 GMT -5
......and then there was all of that Red Bull that Phil loved to drink - constantly. Considering his high BP, it is a miracle that he didn't have a stroke sooner.
We now know that energy drinks contribute to heart problems in young people. When you are 53 years old with a history of hypertension and a clotting problem, it is only a matter of time before your head explodes if you drink the stuff.
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Post by darianagle on Jul 26, 2015 12:53:16 GMT -5
We don't really hear much about Jake unless he "backslides". Is he doing anything at all related to fishing? Sometimes it seems like Discovery is keeping him in a gilded cage, waiting for the right time to "parade" him in front of the DC viewers....But that's just me.
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Post by crabber on Jul 26, 2015 18:01:18 GMT -5
Jake had nothing to do with Phil's stroke. Phil smoked 5 packs of cigs for at least 30 years. He was a heavy Coke user and an alcoholic. He continued drinking, heavily smoking and using Coke almost up to his death. He suffered from HBP and blood clots and was not cleared medically to be on the boat by his doctors. He stated he knew due to his lifestyle choices he would not be around much longer. Phil was a grown man who made those unhealthy choices and paid for them with his early passing. He had other health problems which were hinted at but not discussed. To say Jake caused Phil death is not true and simply wrong. Jake is an addict because he inhert. it from Phil, who was not shy about using or drinking in front of his kids. Phil was an addict. He knew Jake was using. Jake was raised by addicts, grew up in a house with an addicted father and an addicted, physically abusive step-mother. Phil's choices led to his death - not anything Jake did.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jul 26, 2015 18:50:15 GMT -5
....and in spite of all those bad things the boys loved him like he was a saint, and made sure he knew it. I'll give the them that.
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Post by scottsgirl on Jul 27, 2015 0:48:39 GMT -5
My father who grew up fishing and continued into retirement age, has had plenty of exposure to fishmen with unhealthy and addictive lifestyles. He claims that children that had a parent that was alcoholic were very protective and loyal to them. They often tried to present their parent as a great person. Dad claims that the younger fishermen were more likely to experiment or use drugs,whereas the old salts were boozers. He saw that coping mechanism especially in young men over and over again. I saw some of that in Josh and Jake. A lot of the unhealthy lifestyle becomes a joke to them, "I been smoking and drinking long before you came around." They become totally complacent until serious health issues arise. They can call it what they want, but they are giving in to peer pressure.
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Post by bentwillow on Jul 27, 2015 8:26:16 GMT -5
If Jake and Josh had recognized the reality of the terrible childhood, they would have walked away from Phil forever. Instead, they chose to glamorize their father - which makes what happened to them acceptable. So, I agree with you, scottsgirl, denial is a powerful thing.
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Post by crabber on Jul 27, 2015 9:53:02 GMT -5
I think that despite Phil's many, many faults, both Josh and Jake knew Phil loved them. They were prohibited from having any contact with their mother for 16 years - all their childhood into their early 20's. The only other mother figure was their step-mother, who was physically abusive and an addict. I am not a psychologist, but maybe that made them more protective of Phil.
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Post by bentwillow on Jul 27, 2015 11:15:52 GMT -5
Why wasn't Jake and Josh allowed to see their mother for 16 years?? Does anyone know? From what I remember, the explanation was not in Phil's book.
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Post by Maribegood on Jul 27, 2015 15:27:34 GMT -5
As far as I know, they have never given the reason out.
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Post by crabber on Jul 27, 2015 16:15:10 GMT -5
From what I remember from the book, Mary Harris claimed Phil's second wife made up false/untrue stories about her and she would tell their mother the visitation date had been changed when it had not. From what I remember, Mary Harris indicated the court stopped visitation. God only knows how Phil got custody - that was never discussed in the book. That is probably a story within itself.
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Post by darianagle on Jul 27, 2015 16:54:47 GMT -5
I seem to recall that Mary, in an interview after Phil's Death, said that while SHE had the boys, Phil was the "Fun" Parent and she had to be "Stern" One. Maybe that's the "dad" they preferred to Remember....?
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Post by scottsgirl on Jul 27, 2015 19:29:00 GMT -5
I seemed to remember the same interview that diariangle mentioned about Phil being the fun parent. I just assumed that Mary had more contact with the boys. Something is, "fishy." Pardon the pun.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jul 27, 2015 20:29:27 GMT -5
There was a Phil Harris special on after his death and she did speak, I remember her being very pretty in the old family photos. . Maybe that is the interview your thinking of?
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