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Post by crabber on Aug 15, 2015 11:45:49 GMT -5
I was just checking Travis Lofland's Public FB page and saw in July he put a picture of Josh up. Check out his comment. Interesting.....
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Post by bentwillow on Aug 15, 2015 16:43:32 GMT -5
I can't check out his comments. I'm not on facebook. What did he say?
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Post by darianagle on Aug 15, 2015 17:41:13 GMT -5
I have a FB account and can't seem to find the pic...Did Travis take it down?
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Post by sciencer on Aug 15, 2015 17:58:21 GMT -5
"What it's like to work on the joke of the fleet!! Such an inaccurate story and proof a couple greenhorn skippers will do anything for TV.."
I assume that is the post. It had a picture of Josh under it.
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Post by Maribegood on Aug 15, 2015 21:02:11 GMT -5
Moving this over to Deadliest Catch The Series. The "Episode" section is for episodes only. Carry on.
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Post by darianagle on Aug 15, 2015 21:27:11 GMT -5
Hmmm...this could lead to a new segment on 'The Bait' next year --"Celebrity Skipper"!
Now Miz Kardashian, your new greenhorn is romancing a crab, the Galley is flooded, and you've left your mascara back in Dutch. Your first reaction is to A) Book the 'horn on The Dr. Phil Show B) Pump out the Galley and Radio for take-out, or C) Turn the Boat around.
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Post by crabber on Aug 15, 2015 21:59:58 GMT -5
Aug 15, 2015 18:58:21 GMT sciencer said:
"What it's like to work on the joke of the fleet!! Such an inaccurate story and proof a couple greenhorn skippers will do anything for TV.."
Yep, that's it. Scroll down through the comments. Something went on that's for sure.
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Post by thegroovologist on Aug 16, 2015 4:11:58 GMT -5
I wasn't able to find it. I guess he has already deleted that comment.
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Post by crabber on Aug 16, 2015 9:08:45 GMT -5
thegroovologist - No it is still there. You have to scroll down and read all the comments. Here it is.
Josh said - Josh Harris Wow trav that is all I can say don't ever call for my help again and it was played the way it happened.
10 · July 17 at 1:41pm
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Post by anitalalouise on Aug 16, 2015 9:21:06 GMT -5
I don't believe a word out of Josh's mouth.
Travis can do better.
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Post by doder on Aug 16, 2015 9:46:15 GMT -5
i bet travis will not be back on the cm next year.
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Post by crabber on Aug 16, 2015 11:45:20 GMT -5
I don't believe Josh either. Travis has no reason to lie. Josh will obviously do anything disco wants. I would guess neither Travis or
Jake J. are on the boat for King Crab in October. Both have a lot of experience and, I think Travis is also an engineer. Both will get jobs on other boats.
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Post by drnash on Aug 16, 2015 15:47:14 GMT -5
I cannot see the the comment itself. I can see Jake being picked up on The Time Bandit, Jake is a solid deck hand. I don't see Travis going back to the Time Bandit because I think I remember hearing about him being late when they were about to leave the docks.
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Post by svtubamom on Aug 16, 2015 16:49:48 GMT -5
I must be missing it as I don't see the post.
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Post by crabber on Aug 16, 2015 17:44:50 GMT -5
Travis got fired from the TB for what I think was him being drunk and coming back late to the boat. Not sure, But I think he may have fallen overboard too, but it is so long ago I can not remember. I also agree that Jake J. is a good deckhand. Travis is too, but it's a good bet he will not be on the TB. If Andy will not take Scotty back I can't see him taking Travis back.
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Post by Maribegood on Aug 16, 2015 18:20:52 GMT -5
Travis fell overboard one night while he was helping the TB Dock. That had nothing to do with his being fired. After he was fished out and passed the hypothermia danger, he went out drinking as a sort of "celebration of life". That made him and subsequently the boat late getting started on its next trip, so he was told to finish the season but that he was fired. He did apologize in an FB post to the fans over hid TB firing.
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Post by drnash on Aug 22, 2015 10:23:21 GMT -5
Yep it's confirmed travis left the cm according to twitter. looks like he is trying to get a oregon crab permit. He said we was done with kindercrabing.
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Post by Kris on Oct 14, 2015 17:25:16 GMT -5
Yep, I can confirm the above. I asked Travis whether or not he would be on the show this next season 12 & he answered & said 'no he won't be on DC anymore'
As far as what went down on the CM this past season, I am currently in the process of finding out as I was curious as to whether what we saw this season was the result of Disco. using creative editing to make it look worse than it was, but I have a strong suspicion that the situation on the Marie was 10x worse than what we saw.
So hopefully Travis is willing to elaborate, if he's not,fair enough & I'll leave it at that
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Post by Kris on Oct 14, 2015 19:51:28 GMT -5
well, Travis was more than willing to elaborate, so here's the copy/paste of my initial question & his answer
This was my initial question
Hey Travis, I have a question to ask you if you're willing..I dunno if you can answer or not & if not, then it's cool. But I'm curious, this past season on DC, were the situations on the CM that were aired really & truly the unmitigated disaster I think they were or was Disco. using creative editing to make things seem worse than what they were? I remember you making a comment something about 'this is what it is to work on the joke of the fleet' Not slamming you for that mind you, as I suspect things were 10x worse than what we were shown. I know that anyone who is involved in the production has to sign a NDA but as I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on t.v LOL I'm not sure what that entails. So if you care to/are allowed to, can you elaborate? thanks dude..Peace out
and this is his answer
The boat was lucky to have not sunk from years of neglect, so they left out more mechanical than anything else, the deck was a war zone... So it was what it was.. As far as my comment.. The crab gear was a direct reflection of the harris boys and Phil's crew, last year was the first year that the gear has fished since Phil's passing and was in the condition left from unprofessional deckhands, complete hacks.. Well the story of us and the gear and josh yelling happened over two days, not instantly like it played... In short they cut out me yelling at josh that the gear was completed minus on the boat because he didn't bring pot tie material which I had called the day before.. In short he was yelling at us for not doing our jobs when in actuality he was the weakest link and the reason the gear was on the beach and so fucked up.. He forgets I know how much he actually knows lol!! Not talking shit i love the kid, but way to salty to get an ass chewing from a glorified greenhorn who's now a Cpt for tv...Hope that answered your question
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Post by Kris on Oct 14, 2015 21:13:26 GMT -5
Travis also mentioned just now that he will be crabbing this winter, only it will be for Dungeness crab & it'll be in Oregon & that he hopefully will soon be running his own boat. I jokingly asked him if he would have a camera crew aboard, figuring the response I'd get would be Hell No!
his answer
Stay tuned lol
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Post by seasick on Oct 15, 2015 1:22:00 GMT -5
(Qouting Travis) ... last year was the first year that the gear has fished since Phil's passing and was in the condition left from unprofessional deckhands, complete hacks... At the time of Phil's passing, the "unprofessional deckhands" included Freddie. |
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Post by Kris on Oct 15, 2015 2:27:41 GMT -5
yeah I was kind of surprised because I always thought that Phil ran a tighter ship than that (and NO I am not one of those nutcases who thought Phil to be the Second Coming) but hey, I'm not there & honestly? though I like Josh & all but if I were forced to choose whether I believed Travis or Josh, I'm with Travis hands down, he was there & so should know. I personally thought Josh was out of line treating those guys like 'probies' & that whole thing was as we suspected, it wasn't about laying down the law, it was about puttin' on a show for the cameras. And then Andy has the balls to tell Josh 'good job on laying down the law' on The Bait...Yeah right, what little respect I had for Andy (which honestly at this point isn't much) went to zeroBesides that, what would Travis have to gain by lying? Did Freddie's behavior this past season with the situation with Monte strike you as professional??? didn't to me, but hey Can someone tell me, is there a way that pots that will not be used for a while can be stored so they won't fall into disrepair? If so, then that's what should have happened. I've heard that when Kings/Tanner season is over & the boats are docked at Dutch that before they leave, the boat is cleaned inside & out & the gear is prepped for Opies. Is that not true of most of the boats? After Travis answered the initial question, I voiced my opinion on how Josh didn't help fix the gear & of course the disaster with the steering. Thoughts that unless I'm mistaken were also shared by folks here & Travis said they don't affect my life anymore  which was a nice way of saying, I don't want to talk about that anymore, let's change the subjectSo, we started talking about other stuff, hell, I even told him that if he ever wanted to quit fishing he should try to get a gig as a sous chef for one of the Iron Chefs & be on ICA  which he thought was funny (a good idea though  ) |
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Post by RawGreatLakesGreenhorn on Oct 15, 2015 9:16:56 GMT -5
New to posting here. If I remember correctly, the CM went out eventually after Phil's death and wasn't it into May (where DC made special arrangements to have Josh filmed "fishing", all for show)? The CM went out for Kings at the end of 2010 which had Josh's mutiny against Derrick Ray. The deckhands got nothing that season. That was Freddie's last season on the CM. In 2011, the CM went out for Opies under Tony Lara while Freddie was on the Wizard. I would think that whomever was on the boat for the 2011 Opie season was responsible for the Opie pots.
Another thing is that from the end of the 2011 Opie season through early 2015, those Opie pots were sitting, exposed to the air and elements for nearly 4 years. Dry rot, decay and wildlife would have taken their toll on the netting, even if they were in good shape. Aside from any new regulations that affected the pots, they would not have seen any attention in nearly 4 years. From that short segment when Josh visited the storage containers that contained the CM's gear and were picked over by scavengers, it looked like Josh wasn't involved at all with keeping up after the gear and equipment was stored.
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Post by crabber on Oct 15, 2015 9:53:42 GMT -5
Wow-thanks for all the info. If I remember right, the cm fished in the summer of 2010 after Phil's death with someone other than Derrick Ray. Josh did his one scene for tv and Jake(according to Josh) fished on the Fierce Allegiance that summer. Josh spend the summer making tv appearances(I remember him on the Tonight Show with Johnathan).
After fishing with Tony Lara for opies, I think the Devlin family took the boat out for tending that summer(I remember seeing pics on the old cm/Morgan Howard sites) and then was put in dry dock until Josh got the boat in late 2012/early 2013. I would guess Josh and Jake had nothing to do with storing the pots. Jake did not fish at all and Josh was on the TB. I do not know who was responsible for the storage but Casey and Josh should have know that after 4 years the pots would have been unusable. Just like they both should have know the rules change for the size of the rings on the pots for opies this year.
Also, Travis fished on the cm last year - he knew the condition of the boat. If it was as bad as he says(which I believe), then he should not have stepped foot on the boat. I do believe that disco did their usual edit job, but what else is knew when it comes to that. Travis signed the NDC and their is only so much he can say.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 9:59:47 GMT -5
yeah I was kind of surprised because I always thought that Phil ran a tighter ship than that (and NO I am not one of those nutcases who thought Phil to be the Second Coming) but hey, I'm not there & honestly? though I like Josh & all but if I were forced to choose whether I believed Travis or Josh, I'm with Travis hands down, he was there & so should know. I personally thought Josh was out of line treating those guys like 'probies' & that whole thing was as we suspected, it wasn't about laying down the law, it was about puttin' on a show for the cameras. And then Andy has the balls to tell Josh 'good job on laying down the law' on The Bait...Yeah right, what little respect I had for Andy (which honestly at this point isn't much) went to zeroBesides that, what would Travis have to gain by lying? Did Freddie's behavior this past season with the situation with Monte strike you as professional??? didn't to me, but hey Can someone tell me, is there a way that pots that will not be used for a while can be stored so they won't fall into disrepair? If so, then that's what should have happened. I've heard that when Kings/Tanner season is over & the boats are docked at Dutch that before they leave, the boat is cleaned inside & out & the gear is prepped for Opies. Is that not true of most of the boats? After Travis answered the initial question, I voiced my opinion on how Josh didn't help fix the gear & of course the disaster with the steering. Thoughts that unless I'm mistaken were also shared by folks here & Travis said they don't affect my life anymore which was a nice way of saying, I don't want to talk about that anymore, let's change the subjectSo, we started talking about other stuff, hell, I even told him that if he ever wanted to quit fishing he should try to get a gig as a sous chef for one of the Iron Chefs & be on ICA which he thought was funny (a good idea though ) I was in King Cove when Derrick brought the last load of the season that May. The boat was in terrible shape. Derrick couldn't wait to get off. And neither of the Harris boys were on board at that time. It was obvious that Phil was not one to take care of the boat very well. I had that same impression other times when Phil delivered in King Cove. The boat always looked like it had been worked hard with minimal maintenance. Crab pots are stored on the beach exposed to the elements. Some deterioration of the web and lines may occur during storage, but most likely they were put away in bad shape. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 10:05:07 GMT -5
Travis also mentioned just now that he will be crabbing this winter, only it will be for Dungeness crab & it'll be in Oregon & that he hopefully will soon be running his own boat. I jokingly asked him if he would have a camera crew aboard, figuring the response I'd get would be Hell No! his answer Stay tuned lol Travis worked on a tender this summer called the Echo Belle. The Echo Belle is set up for Dungeness fishing,and would be capable of fishing off the Oregon coast, so it would be a good bet that he may still be on that boat. |
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Post by crabber on Oct 15, 2015 10:07:25 GMT -5
Thanks King Cove, I don't think what you said surprises anyone. The CM was forever breaking down and having mechanical issues. Obviously neither Phil nor the Devlin's took care of routine maintenance until necessary and then went the cheap way out. The CM always had more break downs than any other boat on the show.
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Post by CatchAddict on Oct 15, 2015 15:13:16 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, the first year Casey and Josh came up to fish opies, they used another boats gear...a sign that they were well aware that the old CM gear was not in good order. Then, I got the impression that the gear that they were repairing near the dock, when they had the whole opie ring problem, was not the old CM gear, but instead some old junk gear that they had bought somewhere...meaning that the old CM gear had been sold/stolen/disposed of sometime prior.
Looking at the condition of the boats, the Northwestern was built in 1977, and seems to be in fairly good condition. The CM was built in 1989, and always seemed to be in bad shape. I don't think the dual ownership arrangement between Devlin and Harris led to good maintenance.
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Post by seasick on Oct 15, 2015 16:05:06 GMT -5
Well, someone got fired from the TB because of drinking too, and since that happened off camera, we know that firing was genuine. Having said that, I don't doubt that the CM and the gear was in a terrible shape. There's a reason the new owners spent that much on repairs. I just think that Phil/Cornelia Marie was to blame for that, not the deckhands.
CatchAddict: All the boats on the show have an insane amount of breakdowns. I actually think the WW2-ship Wizard is the one with the least problems, at least after they fixed that rust problem in one of the early seasons. Most engineers can fix something, the good ones prevent things from breaking.
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Post by darianagle on Oct 15, 2015 17:02:42 GMT -5
King Cove --I've been meaning to ask about those "escapement rings".....are they supposed to eventually dissolve after prolonged immersion in seawater, keeping lost pots from "ghost fishing"?
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which he thought was funny (a good idea though 
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