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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 10:16:52 GMT -5
I was just involved in a work related email that indicated that Josh Harris is involved in the management of the Cornelia Marie.
Since it was a confidential email,I can't tell you any more. I don't know if he is an owner,but for sure is involved in the management of the daily operations.
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Post by svtubamom on Apr 6, 2013 13:34:28 GMT -5
Let's hope that this time, he will not be more concerned with camera time than fishing time.
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Post by jc836 on Apr 6, 2013 15:59:48 GMT -5
Good to know King Cove. Respect the nature of the posting. Considering that there has been much said that Josh has come up with some way to enable him to have a boat-it does not surprise me that it could be the F/V CM. Then again Cornelia and her family have been running the vessel without any Harris involvement for 2 years now. Would they be willing to let go of her? As to Josh having the cameras versus earning a paycheck from his work as anoperator/owner I think he has demonstrated that he does not need cameras while on the Time Bandit. The new season starts shortly and we can decide for ourselves. Also, remember that Josh is now a parent with responsibilities that go far beyond TV.
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Post by nannyb on Apr 6, 2013 17:38:40 GMT -5
I am sure that being a daddy will make Josh a better person. Whenever I encounter someone who is about to become a parent, I tell them, "You will learn what love is, and you will learn what fear is."
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Post by pamd on Apr 6, 2013 22:14:48 GMT -5
Josh has to feel as if the weight of the world is resting upon his shoulders, as he is dealing with three major life-changing events simultaneously.
His daughter's arrival will help to provide the strength necessary to navigate the hurdles presented by the challenges of operating a new business, especially one so complex as the operation of a Fishing Vessel and the associated management, staffing, and payroll functions.
One aspect that hasn't been broached of late is the "Jake" situation. This must be weighing on Josh's mind.
It is my sincere hope that his new family provides Josh with the support network which will undoubtedly be called upon to help him through life's adventure, as he does his best to fill one extremely large pair of shoes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 1:08:04 GMT -5
one thing I can add is the tone of the email indicated he was managing operations and not "captaining" the boat.
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Post by jacourt on Apr 7, 2013 9:59:02 GMT -5
What is entailed with managing the boat?
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Post by jc836 on Apr 8, 2013 7:26:56 GMT -5
Think finance, equipment, provisioning (food and other supplies). He may also be involved with hiring and repair tasks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 8:44:44 GMT -5
What is entailed with managing the boat? Almost every boat has someone on the beach that manages what's going on. Usually it's an owner,but I can't say from what I saw whether Josh is an owner. They are responsible for lots of things including but not limited to: Negotiating with processors for deliveries. Arranging tendering and other jobs when not crab fishing. Scheduling maintenance Paying bills Hiring skippers. Expediting parts deliveries. Anything else that comes up in the daily operations of the boat that need help frolm someone on the beach.
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Post by pamd on Apr 8, 2013 16:51:06 GMT -5
In addition the the responsibilities for maintenance of the boat, he would have to set up business accounts, and budget "out" for operational insurances, a ship maintenance account, transportation costs (a pickup truck for administration purposes), workman's compensation, permits/licenses/fees, and probably at least one part-time office assistant to tend to communications, mailings, and monitoring the needs of the day to day operations.
When the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is fully enacted, there is a probability that even though the deck hands and engineers are contract employees, that the Cornelia Marie organization will have to pay at least a portion of the coverage for them.
I'd say that ideally, having a "significant other" who could handle the business administration, while Josh handled the physical administration of the boat, would be the ideal (dream type) scenario.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Apr 8, 2013 18:59:53 GMT -5
I beleive Keith's wife manages the Wizard like that, dosnt she pamd?
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Post by pamd on Apr 8, 2013 21:55:20 GMT -5
It sounded like Keith's wife had some involvement in the operations of the business, according to some of the satellite phone calls between Keith and his family. He did complain about the enormous debt incurred when he purchased the Wizard.
Rick Quashnick and his wife, Donna, may have a similar business model.
I really do hope the best for Josh, and the rest of the Harris clan. It would have been like another part of Phil dying had Josh been forced (in some way) to abandon, or sell the Harris Brothers stake in the CM.
How much do you want to bet that a portrait of Phil becomes part of the design of the boat?? (jib boom carving, maybe??)
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Post by MaryC on Apr 16, 2013 22:19:01 GMT -5
No boat for the Harris boys. I wonder how long Josh will last on the Time Bandit as a deckhand?
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Post by debb on Apr 16, 2013 22:51:47 GMT -5
Josh referred to presenting a plan (to run the CM and crab fish) and being turned down. But there were no details. Any of you old hands at this digging for info know anything?
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Post by jesebjeans on Apr 16, 2013 22:57:56 GMT -5
He recently bought the CM so whatever plan he formulated later worked.
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Post by MaryC on Apr 16, 2013 23:24:01 GMT -5
Do you have a reference or article showing Josh Harris was able to purchase the CM. Thanks.
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Post by anitalalouise on Apr 17, 2013 5:43:48 GMT -5
He recently bought the CM so whatever plan he formulated later worked. I think there was a claim that he bought the CM somewhere, but no actual evidence that he did.
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Post by MaryC on Apr 17, 2013 14:49:49 GMT -5
He recently bought the CM so whatever plan he formulated later worked. I think there was a claim that he bought the CM somewhere, but no actual evidence that he did. I wonder if they did. You would have to find financial backing give millions to two men who own a small percentage of the CM. Jake and Josh lack captain experience, no captain license and one of these individual could not be on a boat at the present time due to personal issues. Yet, I do not know what efforts they put into this venture. Also, did CM owner want to sale her share. Perhaps the producers of DC would be the financial backing for what they feel would benefit ratings?
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Post by jesebjeans on Apr 18, 2013 14:54:05 GMT -5
Someone posted on here that in mid-March Josh posted that he purchased the CM on his facebook page.
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Post by sciencer on Apr 18, 2013 16:40:04 GMT -5
Given the apparent razor thin margins in crabbing, it would be crazy to finance the boat without experience on the shore and in the wheelhouse. Tendering and other types of fishing may be a softer way to get into the industry. It seems as if there are huge start-up costs. Look at Elliot putting a lot of money to resurrect the Saga. I don't know if the CM has been participating in other fisheries, but she sure did look sad there at the dock.
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Post by bentwillow on Apr 19, 2013 12:31:14 GMT -5
When and how did Josh buy the CM?
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Post by anitalalouise on Apr 19, 2013 12:43:13 GMT -5
I don't think he did. If you look at the Cornelia Marie website there's nothing about it there, someone did a search and there are no official documents of the sale, etc. The CM website talks about salmon tendering and gives the names of the captain and crew, and Josh was not among them.
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Post by sciencer on Apr 19, 2013 13:26:47 GMT -5
Glad to see the CM is out working..as she is meant to be.
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Post by jc836 on Apr 20, 2013 7:40:46 GMT -5
I am not a huge fan of Morgan'sa as many know. The site is for his and his mother's benefit. He rarely mentions anything Harris anymore and focuses on the the Devlin brothers whenever it is appropriate. The boat has tendered for many years, btw. Might I suggest that someone, more able than I, look up the IMO number of the F/V Cornelia Marie and then go to both the Washington and Alaska webistes where ownership documents and their transfers might be found. If the boat has been sold, there will be a record of the Deed/Title transfer.
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Post by jc836 on May 1, 2013 11:22:42 GMT -5
Just read this morning that Josh has put the pieces together and indeed is the owner of the Cornelia Marie as of today. I wonder who will run the website on his and the boat's behalf. Josh mentions that he is going to be tendering Herring and Salmon followed by a trip to Seattle to do $500K in repairs. As we all know the boat has been used for tendering over the past 2 years but nothing more. Over the summer he will work on his licenses, as well as put a crew together for crab season in the fall. The source is from Josh himself in several interviews online at Zap2it.com blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/05/deadliest-catch-josh-harris-gets-cornelia-marie-and-a-baby.html Edited by MBG to include a link for the interview.
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Post by foilgirl on May 1, 2013 12:21:27 GMT -5
Just read this morning that Josh has put the pieces together and indeed is the owner of the Cornelia Marie as of today. Does anyone know how long the title transfer on a fishing boat like this would take? Because all the sources I can find, including www.cfec.state.ak.us & www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov still have the title registered to Cornelia Devlin. Also, I found an interview on blog.zap2it.com w/ Johnathon Hillstrand dated 04/13/13. He sounds a bit skeptical of Josh's getting the CM. ETA: Found the 05/01/13 interview on blog.zap2it.com w/ Josh. He says Freddy has promised to come back to the CM as Josh's "bait boy". And he says that Jake is getting himself together (I assume in regards to drug use) and took a year off from fishing to do so. From that Johnathon interview: "He doesn't have a job. He asked everybody, and nobody wanted to take him." I'm not seeing how those two statements mesh. Didn't Sig say on the Bait that he hopes he doesn't end up reading Jake's obituary one day? Or did I hear that wrong? ? I think I'll wait for further proof. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.
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Post by Maribegood on May 1, 2013 15:01:27 GMT -5
I'll take a guess that the statements mesh in that not being able to get a job may have forced Jake back on the treatment merry-go-round at some point in the last 6 months. Maybe he really will get clean this time, maybe he won't.
I'm with foilgirl in that it's going to take more than Josh's say so to prove to me that he fully owes the Cornelia now.
I hope he was just yanking chain about Freddy coming back as a baitboy. Freddy supports multiple people and makes good money on the Wizard. He would be insane to take a chance with the Cornelia Maria unless the boat and its owner proved themselves over several seasons. Freddy does not strike me as insane.
I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but in this case I want to see acts, not hear yaks. I want both Harris sons to make it, just not sure they are up to this challenge. Time will tell.
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Post by jc836 on May 1, 2013 15:51:02 GMT -5
Actually, it appears that Cornelia Devlin is/was a "principal". The vessel is registered to an LLC of which she had or is the majority holder. It is interesting to note that the boat has not been permitted for commercial fishing for 2 years according to the records shown. Capt Phil indeed held that document prior to his passing. The Coast Guard records are not easy to navigate at this time, so we may have to wait for that to be updated. If, as Josh noted, he became the owner today-the records will be filed and published according to applicable law. What we should look for later this summer are permits for various fisheries.
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Post by anitalalouise on May 1, 2013 17:26:12 GMT -5
It's one thing to own the boat (if he does actually own it), but where would he be getting quota? They had to borrow quota for the season after Phil's death when they were part of the show. With so many experienced captains/boats out there, I would think getting enough quota to make it worthwhile would be pretty tough.
Plus without an experienced captain I'm not sure they could actually be effective. Although I almost wonder if they wouldn't get Jake A to captain? Maybe that's what's up with the friction on the Northwestern that we've only been teased with?
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Post by jc836 on May 1, 2013 18:18:25 GMT -5
There are several possibilities as to who could captain and also have quota available. Neither Josh or Jake A own any that we are sure of, except for what may have been in the estate. The only captain who was permitted that could be a fit would be Tony Lara. This might not produce enough quota anyway. We must remember that Josh intends to tender this year and that does not require the same level of expertise. If he is actually going to school that will be an asset later. I happen to believe that the Hansen family is intent on staying on the Northwestern for some time. Edgar may leave the deck due to the beating he has taken but would likely work with Sig in a similar way to the Hillstrand clan. This would put Jake A out of the seat. Jake A has indicated that he wants to be able to fish and also run a larger vessel (ie. cargo ship or similar). Time will tell.
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