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Post by crabber on May 19, 2015 12:59:35 GMT -5
Casey McManus did a Q & A today on the DC FB page. He said the CM just got two new partner named Roger and Kari after Opies. I guess thats how they could afford all the repairs/rebuilding being done. He did not give any other info as to who they were.
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Post by sciencer on May 19, 2015 13:27:08 GMT -5
Curiouser and curiouser! I wonder if the CM shares got diluted, or someone sold theirs?
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Post by doder on May 19, 2015 13:42:40 GMT -5
i imagine the majority owner is still a bank or the devlin family.
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Post by crabber on May 19, 2015 13:43:41 GMT -5
sciencer - People asked that question but it was ignored by Casey. Who knows what to think because in Josh's DC Q & A in late April he said Jake was still an owner. So if these people bought in after opies in say February or March, then who knows. So, I guess the owners are now J & J, Casey and the two other people.
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Post by crabber on May 19, 2015 13:56:24 GMT -5
doder - Cornelia Devlin does not own any interest in the CM. She sold her interest in early 2013 to Josh and Jake.
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Post by bentwillow on May 19, 2015 14:10:22 GMT -5
I just don't understand the whole saga surrounding the CM. Why doesn't someone (anyone) come clean about who owns what part of the CM. Why the mystery???
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Post by sciencer on May 19, 2015 14:10:48 GMT -5
I would only invest if Josh had nothing to do with the running of the boat. I wonder who is controlling the desicion making in term of repairs and what fishing industries they will participate in? Having Josh at the helm, at least at the moment, is not a good profit making strategy.
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Post by Maribegood on May 19, 2015 14:32:37 GMT -5
Moved into the appropriate sub forum. Thread creator is crabber.
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Post by Maribegood on May 19, 2015 14:40:07 GMT -5
I just don't understand the whole saga surrounding the CM. Why doesn't someone (anyone) come clean about who owns what part of the CM. Why the mystery??? I think the ownership is kept purposely murky because it doesn't fit into Disco's "redemption arc" for the CM or the Harris brothers. She is no longer Harris majority owned, and only was for a short time. That together with Josh's disinterest in really participating in the business hardly makes for a compelling "storyline". Josh obviously is not able to hack it in terms of keeping the bills payed without cash infusions. He is going to dump his remaining interest the minute DC is off the air.
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Post by sciencer on May 19, 2015 14:58:29 GMT -5
I agree completely Mari.
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Post by crabber on May 19, 2015 15:12:26 GMT -5
Mari - I think you are probably right. Not for nothing but where would that leave Josh? Truthfully, I never thought Josh would sell most of his ownership of the CM. But, it did seem like it needed a ton of repairs and sounds like almost the whole boat was rebuilt from what Casey has posted. I would guess Josh must now have very little say in what goes on with the boat. Sounds like Casey knew what he was doing all along when he bought into the boat last year.
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Post by svtubamom on May 19, 2015 15:55:19 GMT -5
I have never believe that J&J were sole owners of the CM. Never saw how they could come up with the kind of money that it took to purchase the CM. I am so over Josh and his crap. He can just go away--him, his swarmy grin and crap spewing mouth. Casey can stay :-)
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Post by sciencer on May 19, 2015 17:26:17 GMT -5
Unfortunately Casey is a steady, noncontroversial, capable Captain. Not good for tv, which as we know, loves lots of drama. I really like him.
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Post by darianagle on May 19, 2015 19:50:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately Casey is a steady, noncontroversial, capable Captain. Not good for tv, which as we know, loves lots of drama. I really like him. Casey has a wickedly wry sense of humor and is great fun to watch when he "McGyvers" a repair. I hope they find a way to keep him around.
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Post by darianagle on May 19, 2015 20:57:54 GMT -5
Here's the actual comment posted by Casey on the DC Facebook Page....
As of right now there are four owners, two of them just came in at the end of Opies. Josh and I own part. Roger and Kari are the other two partners. They're both experienced fisherman and all around boat people. They're very talented hands-on partners.
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Post by doder on May 19, 2015 21:34:42 GMT -5
Here's the actual comment posted by Casey on the DC Facebook Page.... As of right now there are four owners, two of them just came in at the end of Opies. Josh and I own part. Roger and Kari are the other two partners. They're both experienced fisherman and all around boat people. They're very talented hands-on partners. i am glade for casey. he seems like very good, no bs man.
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Post by bentwillow on May 19, 2015 21:37:40 GMT -5
Just finished watching the latest episode of DC and couldn't believe how arrogant Josh was when Keith tried to get him to fish tanners. Wow!! I wonder what Casey thought about Josh not wanting to fish for more crab? And, I wonder if Casey went out anyway?
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Post by jesebjeans on May 19, 2015 23:58:38 GMT -5
No on the Jake then
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Post by knurl on May 20, 2015 4:03:52 GMT -5
Yeah.. I remember when Josh and Jake used to talk to their dad like that, too. Josh hasn't grown up yet, maybe Phil protected them too much.
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Post by Maribegood on May 20, 2015 5:10:23 GMT -5
If you are talking about things and scenes specifically in the episode "Wasted Talent", please use the string set up for the episode in the "This Week's Episode" sub forum.
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Post by sciencer on May 20, 2015 5:14:52 GMT -5
I am glad the new partners are experienced. More people for Josh to learn from, if he cares to.
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Post by Maribegood on May 20, 2015 5:58:27 GMT -5
I am glad the new partners are experienced. More people for Josh to learn from, if he cares to. There in lies the problem. He doesn't seem to care to learn. It is no sin to be ignorant, but it is a terrible sin to WANT to stay that way. Arrogance and ignorance is not a formula for success, that's for sure.
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Post by crabber on May 20, 2015 9:59:19 GMT -5
Mari - So true. Most young fishermen would love to be in Josh's position and would give anything to have the help and advise he continually ignores. Lets see how he does now that he is only a minority owner and there are three far more experienced people who will also be making decisions.
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Post by jc836 on May 20, 2015 10:55:25 GMT -5
Crabber: We DO NOT know how the boat has been divided , except that Casey has a 25% interest. The additional people may have a piece of his interest or a percentage of the part that Josh controls. As to Josh not wanting to work with Keith -what a shame on him. I wonder if Casey knows the extent of the offer. Also, we do know that the boat gets an enormous overhaul and engines at some point, which could be a reason to limit things. Another point - Casey is from a fishing family with a direct connection to Trident (love some of their products:)) and likely is fishing controlled by Trident or its partner boats that are under contract. Yes, this is speculation on my part. Maybe, King Cove can enlighten us.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 14:33:28 GMT -5
and likely is fishing controlled by Trident or its partner boats that are under contract. Yes, this is speculation on my part. Maybe, King Cove can enlighten us. Trident could only be able to control their crab fishing to the extent of matching quota shares. Fishing vessel IFQs are matched up with processer IPQs (Individual Processor Quota). IFQ holders have the right to match their shares with any processer with available IPQ. If Trident was part owner I suppose they could put pressure on for the CM to match with Trident. I don't know how legal that would be, as they may be able to own a boat, but cannot own any IFQ That said I don't know where the CM has been delivering their crab so don't know if that is happening. I know the CM has not tendered salmon for Trident. Most boats that Trident has vested interest in also tender salmon in the summer. Nothing I have heard indicates that Trident has any investment in the Cornelia Marie.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 14:35:19 GMT -5
i am glade for casey. he seems like very good, no bs man. I agree, although I think the fame may be going to his head a little...
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Post by svtubamom on May 20, 2015 14:40:19 GMT -5
i am glade for casey. he seems like very good, no bs man. I agree, although I think the fame may be going to his head a little... Fame or Josh??? ;-)
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Post by lonesomerhodes on May 23, 2015 21:54:43 GMT -5
I would be staggered and gobsmacked if Josh attained equity interest in the CM, beyond his inheritance, without an infusion of Disco cash.
Disco notoriously bankrolled a certain gold miner in another show (said to be $10 million, or more) in allowing the miner to go to South America. It is also said they gave him start-up cash for last season, as well. This is well beyond the consultant fees and fuel costs Disco pays for DC.
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Post by bilgepump on May 30, 2015 17:37:27 GMT -5
The 2 new owners of the Cornelia Marie are Kari Toivola and Roger Thomas. I know Kari fishes salmon in Bristol Bay and used to crab back in the day. I know there is a Roger Thomas that captains a sport fishing boat called the Salty Lady out of California, which is where Josh Harris lives now. Not sure if it's the same guy though
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Post by doder on May 30, 2015 19:36:56 GMT -5
BSS CVO N 131951 TOIVOLA, KARI 3754 S BAY DR SEDRO WOOLLEY WA 98284 BSS CVO S 74223 TOIVOLA, KARI 3754 S BAY DR SEDRO WOOLLEY WA 98284
she has owners quota.
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