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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 11, 2014 16:36:53 GMT -5
Thank you King Cove!
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Post by sciencer on Jan 11, 2014 18:15:39 GMT -5
As much as I love DC, and have from the beginning, every year I hold my breath in case the show 'jumps the shark'. It came perilously close with Eliott and the baby mama drama. If they do a few scenes on the CM, as they did on the Kiska Sea with Jake last year, I'd be okay with it, but no big 'Return of the King' type scenes. Let Jake earn the captaincy.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jan 11, 2014 19:23:06 GMT -5
I agree with Sciencer. Just a small update would be fine.
"Return of the king" Haha!
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 11, 2014 20:31:44 GMT -5
Thanks King Cove, you are always a great source of information! :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 11:47:12 GMT -5
SIDE NOTE: in reference to all crab fishermen, (not the Harrises) is it crazy that I feel like these guys are like the Knights of the Freakin Round Table of our day?! Seriously, watching the boats come in at the end of a season, especially the NW because she's white, is like watching sir Gallahad riding in on his mighty steed. No one can deny that the NW is majestic as all get out. Sorry I missed this comment the first time around... This seriously made me laugh out loud. I guess it's my jaded point of view after working with crab fishermen for a very long time. While most of these guys are good hard working guys, Knights of the Round Table they ain't!
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Post by sciencer on Jan 12, 2014 13:56:57 GMT -5
A little rough around the edges are they?
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Post by crabber on Jan 12, 2014 19:35:44 GMT -5
Still, King Cove we appreciate all the "info" you give us !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2014 14:30:20 GMT -5
A little rough around the edges are they? One could say that! Most are good guys I'm not going into detail, but they are not all the great guys they appear to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2014 14:33:25 GMT -5
Still, King Cove we appreciate all the "info" you give us ! Thanks. I try hard to keep my personal opinions off this board, but sometimes I can't help myself.
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Post by bentwillow on Jan 14, 2014 15:29:35 GMT -5
Still, King Cove we appreciate all the "info" you give us ! Thanks. I try hard to keep my personal opinions off this board, but sometimes I can't help myself. Phil used to say that you had to be a little crazy to be a crab fisherman. From what you have inferred, I guess he was right.
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Post by martinhillerswe on Jan 15, 2014 15:47:25 GMT -5
Hi folks, picked this up at "deadliest-fans.com" earlier today. Yes, it is true: The Cornelia Marie is now back on The Deadliest Catch. We don't know whether they will be featured in the upcoming season 10, but as Decker Watson said, they are back. Nothing has been heard from Josh Harris yet. He hasn't posted anything on his facebook or twitter profiles, but as soon as he does, we will update this post. Discovery Networks has listened to their viewers! We have told them how much we disliked their decision not to include the Cornelia Marie in the upcoming season, and they actually listened to you! How awesome is that?!? My hats off, Discovery Networks! - See more at: www.deadliest-fans.com/site/cornelia_marie#sthash.c207UhDR.dpuf
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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 15, 2014 17:11:47 GMT -5
Discovery Network didn't listen to all their fans, because I honestly couldn't care less if I ever saw the Harris boys again.
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Post by junebuggyz on Jan 15, 2014 20:11:09 GMT -5
Discovery Network didn't listen to all their fans, because I honestly couldn't care less if I ever saw the Harris boys again. Ditto! Tired of hearing about their whiny behinds.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Jan 15, 2014 20:28:29 GMT -5
Yuck. Wonder who buckled first.
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 5, 2014 10:02:46 GMT -5
Josh announced on his verified Facebook Page & Verified twitter back in September 2013 that Cornelia Marie would NOT be featured on Deadliest Catch for end of 2013 / beginning of 2014 but then Cornelia Marie Facebook Page announced early in 2014 that Cornelia Marie would be featured on Deadliest Catch Season 10 for Opilio Crab Season 2014 { which starts in October I believe ? }. think about it though ... Josh lost the Cornelia Marie Boat at the end of the Season 7 series which ended on 26th July 2011 { which Cornelia Marie was NOT featured on Deadliest Catch after that } then Season 8 Josh Harris became a deckhand on The Time Bandit Boat , his Brother Jake became a deckhand on The Northwestern Boat. I don't think Jake or Josh Harris were featured on Deadliest Catch for season 9. then on Deadliest Catch: The Bait Pre-Show before Premiere Episode of Deadliest Catch Season 9 they announced that Josh had saved up the money to buy the Cornelia Marie out right. '' Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a "hater". I still believe that Josh is doing all of this because of the show and not because he wants to be a fisherman. Phil, himself, said that Josh came aboard because of the show and to get his face on tv. I still feel that if Josh is serious about fishing, then do it without DC filming it for a year or so. I have felt like Josh has rode Phil's coattails. I loved Phil and I cried the day he had the stroke, cried even harder when he passed and then cried even harder when it aired. I loved Phil but that does not mean that I love his son. Josh has done people wrong in the pass concerning the CM. What he did to Derek Ray when he was captain and also what was done to Freddie. Josh had no intention of fishing, he just wanted to be out long enough to film. He tried to trash Derek Ray's reputation-the captains basically sided with Derek concerning that situation. The lack of crabbing also effected every man on that boat-they did not make as much as they should. I enjoyed DC last season when they quit showing Josh so much and talking to him. I am just sick of Josh Harris acting like he is the only person to have lost a parent and that it is owed to him that DC continue to show him. I must have missed the Harris brothers working. Seems like they were a little more on the "slacker" end or my dad owns the boat and I don't have to do the work. I am so over the Harris boys. I would love to know how the other boats that have been featured are doing. If the rumor is true, then I will use my mute button more or I will have to dvr it so I can fast forward through Josh and Eliott. ''
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2014 12:54:47 GMT -5
I should be able to get the straight scoop tomorrow morning.
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Post by svtubamom on May 5, 2014 14:06:38 GMT -5
According to DC, the film crew was on the CM during Opies. Back a couple of weeks ago, after the recap of season 9, they had the special on the camera crews. It was stated then that the filmed on the CM. So, I have no reason to doubt DC. I really wished it was not true because that just shows me even more that Josh will only be on the CM IF the cameras are there. Thus, he is not a fisherman.
Josh was shown on the TB last season. Very little of him but he was shown. The Hillstrands remarked about never knowing where Josh's head was at when he was on the deck. They even stated during The Bait, that they pushed him off (the TB, that is).
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 6, 2014 0:51:35 GMT -5
According to DC, the film crew was on the CM during Opies. Back a couple of weeks ago, after the recap of season 9, they had the special on the camera crews. It was stated then that the filmed on the CM. So, I have no reason to doubt DC. I really wished it was not true because that just shows me even more that Josh will only be on the CM IF the cameras are there. Thus, he is not a fisherman. Josh was shown on the TB last season. Very little of him but he was shown. The Hillstrands remarked about never knowing where Josh's head was at when he was on the deck. They even stated during The Bait, that they pushed him off (the TB, that is). Josh is a Crab Fisherman , he has been on CM from half way through Season 1 until end of Season 7 as a deckhand. then Season 8 he was on the Time Bandit as a Deckhand. he wasn't used in Season 9.
then on Deadliest Catch Season 9 Pre - Show The Bait he announced in front of Sig, Keith, Jonathan and Andy that he had brought Cornelia Marie Boat , the paper work was signed etc as you will see from the video here:
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 6, 2014 0:59:26 GMT -5
The following information below is taken from Cornelia Marie Wikipedia Page:
In March 2013 captain Johnathan Hillstrand announced during the taping of the Artie Lange Show that Josh Harris bought the Cornelia Marie.
On April 25th, 2013 Josh Harris confirmed in an interview on Rock 105.3 "The Show" in San Diego, CA that he has bought the Cornelia Marie.
On September 13th, 2013, Josh Harris announced on his personal Facebook page that the Cornelia Marie was not optioned by the Discovery Channel for Season 10 of Deadliest Catch.The Deadliest Catch F/V Cornelia Marie Facebook Page announced on March 14th 2014 that while the Cornelia Marie will not be on the King Crab episodes she will be on for Opilio.
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Post by anitalalouise on May 6, 2014 5:43:45 GMT -5
Your point? None of what you posted disproves anything svtubamom posted.
I would really like to know the percentage of the boat that Josh "bought", and where his investors came from.
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Post by doder on May 6, 2014 5:56:58 GMT -5
as of dec.13.2013 the boat was owned by f/v cornelia marie llc according to the noaa vessel data base. www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html Coast Guard Vessel Documentation You asked for a vessel with a name like "CORNELIA MARIE". That selection resulted in 1 matches. *(1 of 1)* Vessel Name: *CORNELIA MARIE* USCG Doc. No.: *957458* Vessel Service: COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL IMO Number: 8852538 Trade Indicator: Coastwise Unrestricted, Fishery, Registry Call Sign: WCW 4672 Hull Material: STEEL Hull Number: 255 Ship Builder: HORTON BOATS INC Year Built: 1989 Length (ft.): 114.6 Hailing Port: KODIAK AK Hull Depth (ft.): 11.7 Owner: F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC 4209-21ST AVE W #306 SEATTLE, WA 98199 Hull Breadth (ft.): 28 Gross Tonnage: 198 Net Tonnage: 135 Documentation Issuance Date: December 19, 2013 Documentation Expiration Date: January 31, 2015 *Previous Vessel Names:* No Vessel Name Changes *Previous Vessel Owners:* F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC COLLINS FISHERIES INC
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Post by anitalalouise on May 6, 2014 7:53:32 GMT -5
as of dec.13.2013 the boat was owned by f/v cornelia marie llc according to the noaa vessel data base. www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html Coast Guard Vessel Documentation You asked for a vessel with a name like "CORNELIA MARIE". That selection resulted in 1 matches. *(1 of 1)* Vessel Name: *CORNELIA MARIE* USCG Doc. No.: *957458* Vessel Service: COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL IMO Number: 8852538 Trade Indicator: Coastwise Unrestricted, Fishery, Registry Call Sign: WCW 4672 Hull Material: STEEL Hull Number: 255 Ship Builder: HORTON BOATS INC Year Built: 1989 Length (ft.): 114.6 Hailing Port: KODIAK AK Hull Depth (ft.): 11.7 Owner: F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC 4209-21ST AVE W #306 SEATTLE, WA 98199 Hull Breadth (ft.): 28 Gross Tonnage: 198 Net Tonnage: 135 Documentation Issuance Date: December 19, 2013 Documentation Expiration Date: January 31, 2015 *Previous Vessel Names:* No Vessel Name Changes *Previous Vessel Owners:* F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC COLLINS FISHERIES INC ^^This would seem to indicate that Josh does NOT own the boat outright. alaskafisheries.noaa.gov/ram/daily/crab_coop_and_members.pdfCollins Fisheries Inc. seems to be associated with Ralph Collins?
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Post by svtubamom on May 6, 2014 9:54:29 GMT -5
Collins Fisheries is connect to Ms. Devlin. Ex hubby or something along that lines. xSomersetGirlxx, you have yet to disprove anything that I have written. I could very well say that I bought the London Bridge. Just because I said it does not mean it is true. Josh was not on the CM when DC first came aboard. Jake was the first Harris boy to work the CM and that was after DC was filming and Josh came later. Even Phil did not have enough money to buy the CM outright, he had a small percentage. Phil made more money as a captain than what a deck hand would make and that is ALL Josh was. He was a deck hand. So who is the backer? Who owns the majority? As for wiki, it is not as reliable as you would like to say. Another site says that the Harris boys own a small percentage and Ms. Devlin still owns the majority. Either way, I still think that IF Josh is serious about fishing, then he needs to learn the business AWAY from cameras and DC. In the end, according to www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.html (which is the official listing), the CM is still owned by Collins Fisheries, Inc. and that my friend is not, Josh Harris.
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Post by Maribegood on May 6, 2014 10:52:43 GMT -5
Collins Fisheries seems to be listed as a previous owner. The current owner is F/V Cornelia Marie LLC.
I, too, would like to know on what planet Josh would be able to finance buying that vessel outright.
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Post by Guest1 on May 6, 2014 11:09:20 GMT -5
Actually it says the current owner is F/v Cornelia Marie LLC and the previous owners were F/v Cornelia Marie LLC and Collins Fisheries Inc. There has been an ownership change, it would appear that FV Cornelia Marie LLC (an LLC is a limited liability corporation- a ownership structure used by many of the fishermen) has acquired Collins fisheries Inc interest in the boat. There has been a change. One could assume that PH traditional held his interest in the boat in the LLC that would have transfered to the boys on his death. That LLC now owned by the boys bought out the collins interest. Only way to be sure is to know who owns FV CM LLC and as a private co no need to make that info public. At the end of the day- Who cares?
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Post by greatlakesgirl on May 6, 2014 11:27:24 GMT -5
I should be able to get the straight scoop tomorrow morning. I'm very interested in what Kingcove may find out. True in the scheme of things, the true ownership dosnt really matter, but it's annoying to hear these guys claiming to have bought these boats outright, when in actuality someone else put up the money. Last year Elliot constantly reminded us he was a boat owner now..blah blah. I have a feeling we will be hearing much of the same from Josh.
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Post by sciencer on May 6, 2014 14:09:34 GMT -5
I would think that there is an experienced management team in place making the decisions. Nobody in their right mind would finance an acquisation otherwise. Maybe Josh is one of the 'managers' as he learns the business. Believe me, I am not a Josh fan at all, but hope that maybe he is learning from those with experience.
When they show the CM during opies, I hope he doesn't present himself as the sole guy in charge. How can he expect anyone to believe that? That is a million dollar business. No way would a novice be put in charge. Maybe they are content to let Josh be the public face for DC and don't care about his lack of credibilty since he has little to no impact on the business itself. And that's where the interests of the LLC lie.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2014 14:44:25 GMT -5
Here's what I found out. Jake and Josh currently are the sole owners of the boat. Josh is currently the business manager,and is going to school to get his captain's license.
Casey may be buying into the boat. DC was in fact on the boat for opies. Josh was on the boat for opies,and I think I heard that Jake was on also.
The boat arrived in King Cove this morning and will be done with herring today.
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Post by sciencer on May 6, 2014 15:36:57 GMT -5
Well, you can knock me over with a feather if that is true, King Cove. Ir's not that I don't believe you, it's that I don't understand it.
If Josh does get his captain's license, more power to him. Maybe he really does want to do the hard work.
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Post by svtubamom on May 6, 2014 15:54:10 GMT -5
Well, you can knock me over with a feather if that is true, King Cove. Ir's not that I don't believe you, it's that I don't understand it. If Josh does get his captain's license, more power to him. Maybe he really does want to do the hard work. Me too but still very puzzled as to who is backing them. I still don't see them having the capital to purchased the CM outright. DC said they were on the CM for opies. I also read somewhere that Josh stated that Jake was not on the boat-or did he say that on The Bait? Either way, when DC starts showing the opies season, I will dvr it and fast forward through both the Saga and the CM.
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