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Post by suzsubaru1955 on Sept 15, 2013 16:04:12 GMT -5
I think Josh got in the first salvo, but Discovery has parried back. You decide who is telling the truth.
Deadliest Catch just posted this around 4 pm est on Facebook: <<We are certainly disappointed that Josh and Jake decided not to include their stories on the upcoming season of Deadliest Catch. We wish them well and lots of success in their latest endeavor. And we wish the whole Deadliest Catch team good luck tonight with the Creative Arts Emmys.>>
There are already over 1,100 comments from users. I only read some, but they were all basically calling Discovery a bunch of liars.
Here's what Josh has said, Twitter and Facebook I think: <<So to all my fans that watched the show, Deadliest Catch, the Cornelia Marie, was not optioned this year so we regretfully will not be on the show anymore. Thank you for all the support we will still be fishing. Things may still get filmed but most likely not through Discovery. Sorry to let people down, things with Discovery couldn't meet up with what we needed, so I appoligize to all but this is where we are. There may be another company this year that we go with but for now we will just fish. Jake and I love you all for your support over the years and most of all from the old man, thank you for everything!>>
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 15, 2013 16:30:50 GMT -5
Did the CM get any quota? You cannot crab without it and let's face it, Josh has already taken Discovery for a ride in the past. They took the CM out only to film and not crab. At this point, I would lean towards believing Discovery over the Harris'.
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Post by anitalalouise on Sept 15, 2013 16:47:47 GMT -5
"things with Discovery couldn't meet up with what we needed"
What did they want that Discovery couldn't give them? Money, quota? That statement right there tells you that it was Josh and possibly Jake who turned something down. Whatever it was they asked for, Discovery was not willing to give them.
I miss Phil on the show, but I honestly don't miss his sons. Even Phil said they were more interested in being filmed than they were in fishing.
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 15, 2013 16:54:14 GMT -5
I miss Phil, but I do not miss either of his boys. Maybe Josh demanded quota and Discovery had none to give. I have always believed that the Harris boys thought they were entitled due to the fact that Phil was their father. They are not that interesting. I am not a big fan on the personal lives of everyone. One main reason why I dislike Eliot--too much mama drama and personal drama. I think that the Harris' made demands and Discovery passed. Now, Discovery needs to pass on Eliot and Jr.
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Post by sciencer on Sept 15, 2013 17:53:32 GMT -5
Discovery must feel that they can get the stories and ratings from other boats, so they not need to cave into the demands of the CM. I am heartily sick of the Josh/Jake saga. They need to go out and become successful on their own, out of the limelight.
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Post by jacourt on Sept 15, 2013 19:11:33 GMT -5
It is time for Jake and Josh to put on their big boy pants and fish and stop making excuses.
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Post by MaryC on Sept 16, 2013 16:13:13 GMT -5
It is time for Jake and Josh to leave in my opinion. I could see another program similar to DC being developed since this is a trend with network/cable channels to duplicate successful programs.
And what did DC offer that was not "up with what we needed."
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Post by Curly G on Sept 16, 2013 16:47:44 GMT -5
No Cornelia Marie, for me I just will quit watching .
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Post by sciencer on Sept 16, 2013 17:00:29 GMT -5
The Cornelia Marie stopped being interesting the King crab season after Phil died. Seeing Murray salvage the opie season aftenr the tragedy was so difficult. Once it became the Jake and Josh show it ceased to be about crabbing. Josh and Jake were clearly 'along for the ride' and not invested in the industry. Time will tell with the Cornelia Marie if Josh and Jake truly have what it takes. I hope they do. That would truly be Phil's legacy, doing it off camera.
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Post by bentwillow on Sept 16, 2013 19:10:37 GMT -5
In my opinion, Josh and Jake were a big 'turn off.' I got the impression that both of them felt entitled to success and fame but neither of them had a work ethic. I thought it was very telling that the Time Bandit cut Josh loose. If he had any desire to really become a crab fisherman and showed some initiative, I don't think that would have happened. It's time to say goodbye to the Harris boys. I wish them well.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 16, 2013 19:16:50 GMT -5
I have a feeling we havnt seen the last of The Harris brothers. Well, I have cuz I wont watch any new spin off crabbing show they may or may not be planning. Good luck and farewell fellas.
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Post by nannyb on Sept 16, 2013 19:29:33 GMT -5
I agree with you, bentwillow, about the Hillstrands letting Josh go. I think they saw that he wasn't going anywhere. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think we'll hear much about the Harris boys doing any fishing. They don't impress me as willing to work hard.
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 16, 2013 20:26:49 GMT -5
No Cornelia Marie, for me I just will quit watching . CM hasn't been on for a couple of years already. DC barely showed Josh this season on the TB.
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Post by rosered74 on Sept 17, 2013 0:22:51 GMT -5
trust me, you cant tell those fanbot, err fan girls anything that destoys their saintly image of the harrises. even the truth! im not liking disco lately, but between them and the harrises, i think ill side with disco on this one.
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Post by rosered74 on Sept 17, 2013 0:25:24 GMT -5
Discovery must feel that they can get the stories and ratings from other boats, so they not need to cave into the demands of the CM. I am heartily sick of the Josh/Jake saga. They need to go out and become successful on their own, out of the limelight. me thinks disco is over the harris drama and are ready for more of the eliot baby mama drama and the seacrook. i know ill be ff to parts where they show the time bandit and nothwestern and other boats, bye bye
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Post by Maribegood on Sept 17, 2013 1:14:14 GMT -5
As to Josh thinking another network will be able to step into the gap, he really needs to start thinking with his upstairs brain. Other film companies and networks have tried "Lobstermen", "Wicked Tuna" and "Swords", and none of them came even close to being able to reach the popularity of "Deadliest Catch". And I say this as someone who enjoyed "Swords, Life on the Line". DC worked because it started as a documentary and really used to be about the fishing industry, the dangers, and the interplay of man vs. nature and man tested to the brink of physical and psychological limits. I think the more they veer into this territory of Elliot's love life, Junior's meanness, and the tawdry and personal, the more viewers they are going to bore.
I'm glad they had a moment of sanity and cut the Harris brother drama.
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Post by Freddiefan112 on Sept 17, 2013 10:04:46 GMT -5
"I think the more they veer into this territory of Elliot's love life, Junior's meanness, and the tawdry and personal, the more viewers they are going to bore."
I think you're off here, unfortunately. I mean, it might bore the viewers now, but there is a plethora of people who love reality TV. Look at the success shows like Honey Boo Boo, Jersey Shore, and Duck Dynasty have. And, honestly, there is only so much crab fishing that can be shown before most people will start to get bored of it (not me of course.) I think showing the examples you listed earlier is DC trying to expand and snag some of the reality TV audience who have no interest in fishing.
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Post by nannyb on Sept 17, 2013 14:42:21 GMT -5
I certainly don't get bored with watching the fishing. A deckhand can easily be pulled overboard if he doesn't position his feet just right. Every trap that they pull on board has the potential to kill someone. The ice on the boat can cause it to capsize. It keeps me on the edge of my seat.
Those who do find it boring can always watch Honey Boo Boo.
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Post by Freddiefan112 on Sept 17, 2013 14:57:00 GMT -5
I certainly don't get bored with watching the fishing. A deckhand can easily be pulled overboard if he doesn't position his feet just right. Every trap that they pull on board has the potential to kill someone. The ice on the boat can cause it to capsize. It keeps me on the edge of my seat. Those who do find it boring can always watch Honey Boo Boo. I am with you, though I am sure DC wouldn't show someone dying, I find it really exciting. Unless it's drama between captains or crew, I hope Deadliest Catch drops it's drama..
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Post by Maribegood on Sept 17, 2013 21:40:41 GMT -5
I don't think they are going to be able to get a significant boost in reality TV fans for a number of reasons, the biggest being is that the two biggest draws, The Hansens and the Hillstrands, appear to have limits as to how far they are willing to stage scenarios. They are going to be fishing long after Discovery is gone, so its not as if they are a Bethany Frankel willing to put all their business out their to attract attention in order to make reality TV their "job". Elliot may be willing and able, but he just does not have the fan base those other 2 boats have.
This is the pivot year. The Hansens and Hillstrands are signed up till the end of season 10 in 2014. If they leave, this show is OVER. All of Elliots babymama dramas together will not keep the show in ratings if the Northwestern and Time Bandit are not featured.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 22, 2013 11:38:08 GMT -5
I saw on twitter, fans asking about Josh and the cm not appearing on the DC next season. Nick from the Cape Caution, who says he dosnt like him btw, said Josh will settle at the last minute with DC for the money. He also says that Josh did not buy the CM. It was a company called B & N Seafoods, maybe kingcove could shed some light? Nick referred to Josh as not a real deckhand. Just an actor, poser. Elliott said basically the same thing.
I can see Josh holding out for the biggest offer then panic when he realizes no ones beating down his door.
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 22, 2013 14:50:03 GMT -5
Never thought Josh as a fisherman anyway. He came aboard because of the cameras, even Phil said that. I said I would believe that Josh bought the CM when I saw the registry (or whatever it is called) listing him as the owner. It could be that DC didn't offer Josh anything, and this is his way of trying to force them into it. It seems that most fans of the show were tired of the Josh/Jake dog and pony show anyway. I didn't care for them when Phil was alive, and my opinion of them sank even lower after his death with the stunts they pulled concerning the CM.
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Post by crabber on Sept 22, 2013 15:31:42 GMT -5
Well, I don't think we have seen the final story. The boards are full of people asking for petitions to be signed. Sig and John/Andy left and came when they got what they wanted. I will not be shocked if DC comes out with an announcement that they have signed on with Josh. btw, they did show someone dying - They exploited Phil's death for every thing they could get. I know Josh & Jake have turned people off, but having lost both my parents I can not imagine having a film crew filming every move my family and I made. DC/OP will always do what they think gives them the most money and ratings. I don't care one way or the other - the show has become one big soap opera.
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Post by Maribegood on Sept 22, 2013 15:59:39 GMT -5
I do not understand this business with petitions at all. If the CM has no quota, what the hell would it be doing on the show? The fangirls need to think that through.
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Post by sciencer on Sept 22, 2013 16:21:29 GMT -5
Maribegood, that assumes fangirls have the ability to 'think things through'. ;-) Fangirls are the epitome of the word 'fanatic', they don't always make sense.
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Post by jacourt on Sept 22, 2013 17:59:55 GMT -5
Many people talk about their fond memories of Phil. It would be sad if those memories were sullied by his sons continuing to ride his coattails. I hope they are not on this season. The development of other worthy young people could be followed, those who have truly applied themselves : Jake Anderson. What will we watch them do, make believe they are handling the boat; yelling directions to the crew ( who would probably be smirking) ? They certainly could not handle any dangerous weather. If Discovery does cave in my mute button will be worn out between Elliott and Jr and those two.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 22, 2013 20:07:27 GMT -5
Nick McGlashin of the CC also said he believed Josh and the CM would probly end up on DC this season. I hope he is wrong It would be a shame to see the show waste a slot of time on Harris BS ery. I defend DC as being the last of the true reality shows ("cant script those waves!") but it's getting too over dramatized to defend anymore.
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Post by rosered74 on Sept 23, 2013 1:34:54 GMT -5
I do not understand this business with petitions at all. If the CM has no quota, what the hell would it be doing on the show? The fangirls need to think that through. to be honest, fangirls cant not think on their own. to brainwashed :-)
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Post by anitalalouise on Sept 23, 2013 5:26:37 GMT -5
I would be as unhappy with the CM and Harris boat drama as I am with Elliott and his girlfriend drama. If the boat has no crab quota, the do not belong on a show about crab fishing. It's as simple as that.
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Post by crabber on Sept 23, 2013 17:56:08 GMT -5
Maybe someone can shed some light on this. I had read Cornelia Devlin was leasing her crab quota and making tons of money after Phil died. I guess she still owns the quota and leases it. King Cove, you are always such a source of knowledge. Any idea about this ?
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