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Post by svtubamom on Apr 25, 2014 9:39:27 GMT -5
All the other captains had nothing but good things to say about Derrick and his abilities. Far as I'm concerned that was when J and J showed they're true nature and I lost all respect for them. Kingcove, is Derrick still fishing at all? Derrick once was part owner of the Siberian Sea,which was built by the original owners of the Kiska Sea. It was very similar to the Kiska and a very nice boat. I believe it was sold on the buyback program some years ago. He then helped build a smaller boat very similar in design to the Kiska and Siberian,but smaller and designed for longlining cod and halibut. I'm not sure what he's doing now.I have not seen him since the was on the CM. I will be back in Alaska next week,and will ask around. Thanks King! Let us know. I always like Derrick and had read that he really was a great captain. It has puzzled me as to why they didn't get Jim Wilson or Tony Lara or even Murray to captain the CM after Phil had his stroke.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Apr 25, 2014 16:12:49 GMT -5
Ya know, as I think about it, seems like I read that The Aleution Ballad, the boat that took that crazy roque wave on camera, was being used as a DC tourist attraction. They take people out and show them a "crabbing experience". I'm pretty sure Derrick was working on that boat as a "celebrity capt" for a time. I don't know if he is still doing that now though.
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Post by crabber on Apr 26, 2014 7:46:03 GMT -5
I also had read somewhere that Derek was working as a "celebrity captain". I think on a boat he owned up in Alaska. I also wondered why Murray or Tony Lara were never hired from the beginning. They both has a personality more like Phil's and would probably have worked out better from the beginning. I never cared for Derek's abrasive personality but he obviously knew his s***. PS-just wondering-did anyone find out why Jake H was arrested last year?
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Post by doder on Apr 26, 2014 8:25:27 GMT -5
PS-just wondering-did anyone find out why Jake H was arrested last year? 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 26, 2014 8:49:02 GMT -5
Crabber, do you have a link to the site that reported Jake's arrest? I can't find it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:56:46 GMT -5
I also had read somewhere that Derek was working as a "celebrity captain". I think on a boat he owned up in Alaska. I also wondered why Murray or Tony Lara were never hired from the beginning. They both has a personality more like Phil's and would probably have worked out better from the beginning. I never cared for Derek's abrasive personality but he obviously knew his s***. PS-just wondering-did anyone find out why Jake H was arrested last year? I think I read somewhere that Derrick was on the Aleutian Ballad for a while. The Alaska Crab Tour is working out of Ketchikan,a very long way from the Bering Sea! alaskacrabtour.com/If my memory serves,Jake got a DUI,or maybe two.
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Post by crabber on Apr 26, 2014 10:36:21 GMT -5
Oh brother....Thanks King Cove.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 26, 2014 10:53:02 GMT -5
I also had read soamewhere that Derek was working as a "celebrity captain". I think on a boat he owned up in Alaska. I also wondered why Murray or Tony Lara were never hired from the beginning. They both has a personality more like Phil's and would probably have worked out better from the beginning. I never cared for Derek's abrasive personality but he obviously knew his s***. PS-just wondering-did anyone find out why Jake H was arrested last year? I think I read somewhere that Derrick was on the Aleutian Ballad for a while. The Alaska Crab Tour is working out of Ketchikan,a very long way from the Bering Sea! alaskacrabtour.com/If my memory serves,Jake got a DUI,or maybe two. So those DUI's are from the last year? It makes sense, as the HuffPo is reporting Josh is saying Jake is not on the boat because he is still using. I'm just surprised any recent DUI's are not searchable.
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Post by crabber on Apr 26, 2014 12:03:34 GMT -5
Meri - I got the info from the Deadliest Catch Spoilers "Irish Captain". Wasn't he on the DC board at one time? I think they were in 2012 or 2013. Interestingly, I saw a site by Jake's step-sister who has a blog about her journey as a recovering addict. She claimed her family life with her mother and Phil was totally disfunct. She indicates her mother, Phil's second wife Teresa, "was mentally ill, forced her to smoke Marij. with her at 8, and Meth in her early teens". If this is true it's no wonder J & J are the messes they are. I would venture a guess based on that book about Phil neither one them ever had much of a support mechanism in their family while growing up. Didn't one of his other step-sisters have a drug problem she was in trouble for?
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 5, 2014 9:34:02 GMT -5
Casey McManus is the current Captain of the Cornelia Marie boat, he has been for just over a year now. however Josh Harris is the FULL Owner as well as Co - Captain of the Cornelia Boat after he brought out his Brother Jake and the previous Cornelia Marie Boat owner ''Cornelia Marie Devlin (formerly Collins)'' .
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Post by svtubamom on May 5, 2014 14:18:20 GMT -5
Josh has stated a lot of things that were not true. I just don't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. I do not see him having the money to buy the CM outright. He may be part owner but I don't see him being sole owner or a bank loaning him enough money to buy her outright. And this is my opinion.
Has the US website been update to show the current owners of any F/V? The last time I checked, Ms. Devlin was still being listed as sole owner of the CM (but that has been several months since I checked.)
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Post by doder on May 5, 2014 14:55:31 GMT -5
however Josh Harris is the FULL Owner as well as Co - Captain of the Cornelia Boat after he brought out his Brother Jake and the previous Cornelia Marie Boat owner ''Cornelia Marie Devlin (formerly Collins)'' . do you have any documented proof of this? where would josh get the money for the multi-million dollar purchase? josh saying he "owns" the c.m. is less credible than when elliot says he "owns" the saga.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on May 5, 2014 18:02:22 GMT -5
however Josh Harris is the FULL Owner as well as Co - Captain of the Cornelia Boat after he brought out his Brother Jake and the previous Cornelia Marie Boat owner ''Cornelia Marie Devlin (formerly Collins)'' . do you have any documented proof of this? where would josh get the money for the multi-million dollar purchase? josh saying he "owns" the c.m. is less credible than when elliot says he "owns" the saga. Amen Doder.
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 6, 2014 0:41:06 GMT -5
however Josh Harris is the FULL Owner as well as Co - Captain of the Cornelia Boat after he brought out his Brother Jake and the previous Cornelia Marie Boat owner ''Cornelia Marie Devlin (formerly Collins)'' . do you have any documented proof of this? where would josh get the money for the multi-million dollar purchase? josh saying he "owns" the c.m. is less credible than when elliot says he "owns" the saga. NO hard proof but Josh announced on Deadliest Catch The Bait Show that he had brought The Cornelia Marie as you will see here in this video :
so I presume Josh has brought out previous owner ''Cornelia Marie Devlin (formerly Collins)''.
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Post by xSomersetGirlxx on May 6, 2014 0:57:08 GMT -5
The following information below is taken from Cornelia Marie Wikipedia Page:
In March 2013 captain Johnathan Hillstrand announced during the taping of the Artie Lange Show that Josh Harris bought the Cornelia Marie.
On April 25th, 2013 Josh Harris confirmed in an interview on Rock 105.3 "The Show" in San Diego, CA that he has bought the Cornelia Marie.
On September 13th, 2013, Josh Harris announced on his personal Facebook page that the Cornelia Marie was not optioned by the Discovery Channel for Season 10 of Deadliest Catch.The Deadliest Catch F/V Cornelia Marie Facebook Page announced on March 14th 2014 that while the Cornelia Marie will not be on the King Crab episodes she will be on for Opilio.
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Post by doder on May 6, 2014 6:10:40 GMT -5
www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/st1/CoastGuard/VesselByName.htmlCoast Guard Vessel Documentation You asked for a vessel with a name like "CORNELIA MARIE". That selection resulted in 1 matches. *(1 of 1)* Vessel Name: *CORNELIA MARIE* USCG Doc. No.: *957458* Vessel Service: COMMERCIAL FISHING VESSEL IMO Number: 8852538 Trade Indicator: Coastwise Unrestricted, Fishery, Registry Call Sign: WCW 4672 Hull Material: STEEL Hull Number: 255 Ship Builder: HORTON BOATS INC Year Built: 1989 Length (ft.): 114.6 Hailing Port: KODIAK AK Hull Depth (ft.): 11.7 Owner: F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC 4209-21ST AVE W #306 SEATTLE, WA 98199 Hull Breadth (ft.): 28 Gross Tonnage: 198 Net Tonnage: 135 Documentation Issuance Date: December 19, 2013 Documentation Expiration Date: January 31, 2015 *Previous Vessel Names:* No Vessel Name Changes *Previous Vessel Owners:* F/V CORNELIA MARIE LLC COLLINS FISHERIES INC
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Post by svtubamom on May 6, 2014 10:01:32 GMT -5
The following information below is taken from Cornelia Marie Wikipedia Page: In March 2013 captain Johnathan Hillstrand announced during the taping of the Artie Lange Show that Josh Harris bought the Cornelia Marie. On April 25th, 2013 Josh Harris confirmed in an interview on Rock 105.3 "The Show" in San Diego, CA that he has bought the Cornelia Marie. On September 13th, 2013, Josh Harris announced on his personal Facebook page that the Cornelia Marie was not optioned by the Discovery Channel for Season 10 of Deadliest Catch.The Deadliest Catch F/V Cornelia Marie Facebook Page announced on March 14th 2014 that while the Cornelia Marie will not be on the King Crab episodes she will be on for Opilio. Really? Just because he said it does not make it true. I am the Queen of England. Just because I said it and wrote it does not make it true. The OFFICIAL RECORDS state that Collins Fisheries, INC is the owner. I do not see Ms. Devlin's ex selling his company. Maybe Ms. Devlin and her ex have the same deal in place with the Harris boys that she had with Phil. Small percentage of boat.
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Post by Maribegood on May 6, 2014 10:46:16 GMT -5
Actually no, Collins Fisheries is not listed as the owner. but as the previous owner. When I used doder's link and typed in "Cornelia Marie", F/V Cornelia Marie LLC comes up as sole owner.
More than one party may be telling tales here. You can't trust Josh without backup data but CM Devlin's son Morgan Howard had written multiple times on his site that his family no longer owns the CM, the Harises own it. I suspect both these guys may be trying to hide the true arrangement in plain site for their separate reasons.
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Post by svtubamom on May 6, 2014 12:35:56 GMT -5
Actually no, Collins Fisheries is not listed as the owner. but as the previous owner. When I used doder's link and typed in "Cornelia Marie", F/V Cornelia Marie LLC comes up as sole owner. More than one party may be telling tales here. You can't trust Josh without backup data but CM Devlin's son Morgan Howard had written multiple times on his site that his family no longer owns the CM, the Harises own it. I suspect both these guys may be trying to hide the true arrangement in plain site for their separate reasons. I see that now. I misread it the first time. Either way, Josh's name is not listed as owner. The CM is still owned by a LLC. I believe that Ms. Devlin is the bankroll behind it. As for Morgan, he has not always been truthful in his statements either. Either way, I just don't want to see Josh on DC. I am tired of his lies and most of all, his riding Phil's coattails several years after his death. If he is really serious about fishing, then do it away from the cameras. Prove yourself. hint hint: Discovery take the cameras off of the Saga too.
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Post by Josh on May 6, 2014 15:20:48 GMT -5
I think Josh and Jake had alot against them to get where they are and to be honest pretty big shoes to fill and mabey thats why they return to deadliest catch in the opilio season The corneila marie deserves to be on this show they showed the last years of Captain Phil Harris life on the boat not to mention that al his issues happened while the show was airing . on that note third highest rating for the show was the season of his passing yes the boys have alot of growing up to do but im pretty sure they will.. Stop hating and start respecting the people that have issues like this i firmly believe cameras or no cameras they would still be doing this
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Post by anitalalouise on May 6, 2014 15:36:25 GMT -5
Reality proves you wrong though. When the cameras aren't on the boat, neither is Josh. Phil said on camera that Josh was all about the TV, not about fishing.
As to what those boys are owed, Phil chose to be on the show, and to have his illness and death on the show so the boys aren't owed anything for that. It wasn't their choice. Their supposed legacy, and what they were "born and bred to do" is fishing, right? They can fish without cameras, right?
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Post by svtubamom on May 6, 2014 15:41:13 GMT -5
I think Josh and Jake had alot against them to get where they are and to be honest pretty big shoes to fill and mabey thats why they return to deadliest catch in the opilio season The corneila marie deserves to be on this show they showed the last years of Captain Phil Harris life on the boat not to mention that al his issues happened while the show was airing . on that note third highest rating for the show was the season of his passing yes the boys have alot of growing up to do but im pretty sure they will.. Stop hating and start respecting the people that have issues like this i firmly believe cameras or no cameras they would still be doing this Why does the CM deserve to be on DC? More deserving than another boat or maybe better drama? After all, the Harris boys do believe in creating drama just for the cameras. Phil was well loved by the fans, his sons are not. It was Phil's decision to keep the cameras rolling to document his death. Phil was the reason that episode was a high ratings one. That was Phil not his children. His children should not be riding Phil's coattails for tv. They should make it own their own by their own hand and their own work, not Phil's. Phil did his work to make his OWN name, now it is past time for his boys to do the same. Instead of saying the famous phrase, 'state hating", maybe it would help if you were to read everything that has been said. No one "hates" the Harris boys, I have never seen anyone on this board say they would like to see them fail. What I have said is, IF Josh is so serious about fishing, then he should do it away from the cameras. Phil even alluded that the only reason Josh came onto the CM was because he wanted on tv. I will hold to my belief that Josh would not be doing this if not for the cameras. When DC passed on the CM for Kings, Josh stated for everyone not to worry that he was working on getting the CM on a new show/different channel. Sound like someone who would be doing it without the cameras? Time will tell with Josh. At some point Deadliest Catch will cease filming and then it will been seen if Josh is a true fisherman. We do know he does not fish during the summer. He seems to only be on the boat(s) during crab season with film cameras. I do not wish ill will towards Josh. I hope he succeeds in anything he chooses to do. I just don't want to see him.
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Post by doder on May 6, 2014 18:35:37 GMT -5
I think Josh and Jake had alot against them to get where they are and to be honest pretty big shoes to fill and mabey thats why they return to deadliest catch in the opilio season The corneila marie deserves to be on this show they showed the last years of Captain Phil Harris life on the boat not to mention that al his issues happened while the show was airing . on that note third highest rating for the show was the season of his passing yes the boys have alot of growing up to do but im pretty sure they will.. Stop hating and start respecting the people that have issues like this i firmly believe cameras or no cameras they would still be doing this it is not hate. it is disgust that josh thinks everyone who watches d.c. is gullible or stupid enough to believe he is nothing but a wanna-be poser,a fake,fraud,and a clown. he denigrates all the other hard working crab fishermen who risks their lives and health. p.s. the boat is just a boat. steel,electrical wiring,and hydraulics. it's not phil's boat. it was never phil's. it will never be the harris families legacy. it's all b.s. created by josh.
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Post by crabber on May 7, 2014 5:38:34 GMT -5
I saw on the spoiler blog the B & N Seafood has an interest in the CM(as per the Irish Captain). Wasn't that person on the DC board at one time? Just wondering.
Jake did not fish for Opies and has not fished for 2 years. I had seen in in article last year after Josh bought the CM he was going for his license. I don't know if he obtained it. Casey McManus is the son of Jim McManus, who was a friend of Phil's. This is my humble opinion, but I think Phil(and J & J) were bullied into filming his death. The book on Phil pretty much states this. They even filmed in the or but did not but it on tv! I think Todd Stanley took advantage of his relationship with Phil to get it all filmed. Having lost both my parents I know I would never want that filmed for tv. I saw on Todd's FB site he is writing a book on Phil. So, it seems everyone is taking advantage of Phil. I can't see DC going much longer on tv. We know that all the "tv captains" will still be fishing. If Josh is serious about fishing and his legacy he will fish camera or no cameras. His DC time will be limited.
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Post by Maribegood on May 7, 2014 6:53:30 GMT -5
I will have to reread it to say for sure, but I did not get the impression Phil was bullied into filming his last days at all. In fact the impression I got was that he pretty much insisted. I don't remember either son making a statement in the book about how they felt about it. But once their dad had consented, what could they have possibly done? Left his death bed? Regardless of the fact Phil consented, he was a sick and dying man at that point so there was an element of exploitation. And while this is probably not a popular view here and I am likely to get a tomato pitched at me for it, the way Josh put Phil's mind and soul at ease when Phil was so full of regret over his parenting was a real example of true forgiveness. Phil did both his kids wrong. They both had either been thrown out or ran away by the time they were teenagers. He had regrets and was trying to do right by them in the last years, but he did wrong. And I say that as a Phil fan from the bottom of my heart. Josh has to have some core of decency under the con to have been able to tell his dad, "you were the best father I could have possibly had". Not a lot of people can fake while watching their father die. You may commence tomato throwing, because I said something nice about Josh Harris. I don't know how I feel about Todd writing a book about Phil, but as a gut reaction I don't like it. The fishermen cannot write tell alls about DC, I don't see why the producers should be able to make money writing about the fishermen.
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Post by Maribegood on May 7, 2014 6:55:36 GMT -5
Oh, I don't remember Irish Captain from the old board, but maybe someone else does?
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Post by crabber on May 7, 2014 8:45:45 GMT -5
Meri - no tomatoes thrown here! Everyone has a right to express their opinion. We are all adults and should respect others even if we do not agree with it. I happen to agree with what you said. J & J's step-sister has a blog where she writes about her recovery. She said her home life with her mother(Phil's second wife Teresa) and Phil was desft. She said her mother was mentally ill and a severe drug addict her entire childhood. I think the book on Phil left more questions unanswered than it answered. Re: how did he get custody of his kids, how could he not let them see/have any contact with their mother for over 15 years, and how could authorities let two kids leaving/thrown out of the home at 15(Josh) and 14(Jake). A book answering all those questions would certainly be interesting. I do not think either of them had/have very much of a support mechanism in their personal(not fishing) lives. Meri - do you or King Cove know anything about B & N Seafood having an interest in the CM ? I think the book is just about Todd's relationship with Phil. After all, he does not want to lose his payday with DC. After saying this I guess I'll have tomatoes thrown at me too! I am in good company !
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Post by svtubamom on May 7, 2014 8:55:15 GMT -5
I will have to reread it to say for sure, but I did not get the impression Phil was bullied into filming his last days at all. In fact the impression I got was that he pretty much insisted. I don't remember either son making a statement in the book about how they felt about it. But once their dad had consented, what could they have possibly done? Left his death bed? Regardless of the fact Phil consented, he was a sick and dying man at that point so there was an element of exploitation. And while this is probably not a popular view here and I am likely to get a tomato pitched at me for it, the way Josh put Phil's mind and soul at ease when Phil was so full of regret over his parenting was a real example of true forgiveness. Phil did both his kids wrong. They both had either been thrown out or ran away by the time they were teenagers. He had regrets and was trying to do right by them in the last years, but he did wrong. And I say that as a Phil fan from the bottom of my heart. Josh has to have some core of decency under the con to have been able to tell his dad, "you were the best father I could have possibly had". Not a lot of people can fake while watching their father die. You may commence tomato throwing, because I said something nice about Josh Harris. I don't know how I feel about Todd writing a book about Phil, but as a gut reaction I don't like it. The fishermen cannot write tell alls about DC, I don't see why the producers should be able to make money writing about the fishermen. I will not throw a tomato at you because I feel the same way. Josh forgave Phil and Josh showed what kind of a man he could be during that time. Watching a parent in a hospital and knowing that they are dying is hard. Josh was there for Phil and Jake and he forgave his dad and that is what Phil needed to hear. I believe that when Josh told him he was the best father he could possibly have, that finished Phil's business on this earth. Phil was able to apologize to his son for the misdeeds he had done and the son accepted the apology and forgave him. My heart ached for Josh during that time. I do not believe that Phil was bullied into filming his end. I do believe that Phil did want his end journey to be filmed. Phil wanted the whole story told and that included his death.
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Post by bentwillow on May 7, 2014 8:58:00 GMT -5
I think Josh and Jake had alot against them to get where they are and to be honest pretty big shoes to fill and mabey thats why they return to deadliest catch in the opilio season The corneila marie deserves to be on this show they showed the last years of Captain Phil Harris life on the boat not to mention that al his issues happened while the show was airing . on that note third highest rating for the show was the season of his passing yes the boys have alot of growing up to do but im pretty sure they will.. Stop hating and start respecting the people that have issues like this i firmly believe cameras or no cameras they would still be doing this "yes, the boys have a lot of growing up to do.." The boys are in their mid 20's and 30's. They aren't boys any more. It's time for them to *become* adults. I'm tired of hearing the excuses about their poor up-bringing. Jake Anderson has had an equally bad time, but he continues to make great strides. Life goes on - people with integrity move on. Captain Phil has been dead for years now - no one will ever take his place. I think he found out who he really was because of D.C. and returned the favor by allowing his last days to be filmed. He said he wanted his story told - and it has been. I am grateful to him that he shared his very last moments with his fans - that was brave. Let's let Phil go now. Idolizing his sons just because they are is his sons doesn't do them any good - or us, for that matter.
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Post by anitalalouise on May 7, 2014 8:59:12 GMT -5
I also never got the impression Phil was forced to die on camera. From everything he said, he wanted it, and I believe the boys said the same thing. If I remember correctly, Todd had to be talked into it to an extent. "Finish the story" was how Phil saw it.
I also agree that the family life of Jake & Josh was terrible by the sounds of it. I'm still not sure what could possibly have been going on with their real mom that the courts saw Phil as the better parent, but he clearly wasn't. His needs always came first it seems and his wife at the time was a whack job to say the least.
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