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Post by crabber on Apr 18, 2014 10:27:33 GMT -5
I believe Josh makes ALL the decisions when it comes to the CM and Jake probably has no say what so ever. Josh made a lot of personal appearances last spring and summer for the book on Phil. It appears Jake did not make any. I know he hated those things. I also saw on the DC FB page that someone was having trouble with the new FB page for the CM Josh set up. They ordered things they did not get. Someone on the DC site also mentioned "family dispute" but did not go into details. Hmmm...... I am wondering if other family members also put money up for the boat. After all, he has two half-siblings and three step-siblings. Just rambling ! Everyone have a great Easter and Passover.
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Post by svtubamom on Apr 18, 2014 10:51:26 GMT -5
josh is pimping the book about phil as well as other merchandise. he needs to keep phils name in the public's mind as well as his own for paid personal appearances. Who is surprised by this? I have said that IF Josh was serious, then he needed to do it on his own. Away from the cameras and quit riding Phil's coattails. Josh has been riding Phil's coattails since the beginning and he sure won't let his dad rest in peace. I am done with the Harris'. I wish the CM all the best but I will be glad to dvr my favorite show and watch it an hour later just so I can fast forward through the BS that we all know Josh will be slinging. He needs to let Phil rest in peace and make his own way in life.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 19, 2014 13:36:31 GMT -5
I also saw on the DC FB page that someone was having trouble with the new FB page for the CM Josh set up. They ordered things they did not get. If that is the case, then it is a repeat of the coffee fiasco that occurred right after Phil's death, when people were ordering the Captain Phil's coffee and no coffee ever came. Sigh.
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Post by crabber on Apr 19, 2014 13:49:37 GMT -5
Wow I did not know that. I assumed Josh and Jake just could not keep the company going. I know Phil was sued by a guy who I think backed him up in the coffee business. Not sure but I think they settled out of Court.
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Post by crabber on Apr 20, 2014 7:26:43 GMT -5
I saw on another site(Deadliest Catch spoilers) that Jake Harris was arrested twice, but not for drugs within the last 1 1/2 years. Hmm wonder what it was for. Perhaps Motor Vehicle charges ?
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Post by svtubamom on Apr 22, 2014 8:48:57 GMT -5
I saw on another site(Deadliest Catch spoilers) that Jake Harris was arrested twice, but not for drugs within the last 1 1/2 years. Hmm wonder what it was for. Perhaps Motor Vehicle charges ? I am like you, hmmmm, wonder what for. Did it say where he was arrested? Surprised that TMZ didn't report this because they love to report arrest on reality tv people. :-) I really hope that Jake gets clean and stays that way.
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Post by crabber on Apr 22, 2014 9:14:16 GMT -5
Hi, how was everyone's holiday? Good I hope. I was looking under DC sites for any juicy info on the new season and found a site from 2011-2012 regarding Josh's girlfriends. It was started by someone asking about his exgf Heather. The conversations went on and on and allegedly ex's and people who know them were in on the conversation. They allege Josh was a "fame whore, dumb as s***,immature, controlling, and does not know how to treat women. They also allege Josh also had a drug problem as bad as Jake's but was better at hiding it. It said Josh paid Heather 10G's to keep her mouth shut. They said Jake was "quite, shy, hated the media attention and when he has a gf he treated them well". I always suspected that Josh was not the boy wonder Discovery made him out to be. I also believe he was smoking on the boat with Jake when Derek was the captain and that's why Discovery never showed anything on tv. The site ended in 2/13. I also hope Jake gets clean.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 22, 2014 10:04:42 GMT -5
Hi, how was everyone's holiday? Good I hope. I was looking under DC sites for any juicy info on the new season and found a site from 2011-2012 regarding Josh's girlfriends. It was started by someone asking about his exgf Heather. The conversations went on and on and allegedly ex's and people who know them were in on the conversation. They allege Josh was a "fame whore, dumb as s***,immature, controlling, and does not know how to treat women. They also allege Josh also had a drug problem as bad as Jake's but was better at hiding it. It said Josh paid Heather 10G's to keep her mouth shut. They said Jake was "quite, shy, hated the media attention and when he has a gf he treated them well". I always suspected that Josh was not the boy wonder Discovery made him out to be. I also believe he was smoking on the boat with Jake when Derek was the captain and that's why Discovery never showed anything on tv. The site ended in 2/13. I also hope Jake gets clean. Back when we were a Discovery Channel board and a few months after Phil's death, someone came on claiming to know both Josh and Jake. Only that time, it was supposedly a Jake who was the pig to his girlfriends, and Josh who had a good rep with the women in his life. What I am trying to get at is anyone can go on an anonymous board and make whatever claim they want about any of these guys. It looks like with the Harris brothers, some people will advocate for one by trashing the other, but I suspect not know either. That being said, i don't think anyone needs an insider to tell Josh isn't exactly a brain trust, much less a brain trust who has lived his life practicing clean living and prayer. But if Derrick Ray had caught Josh using drugs on the boat, he would have gone public with it. Derrick was not shy about outlining Josh's deficiencies to newspapers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 10:24:21 GMT -5
But if Derrick Ray had caught Josh using drugs on the boat, he would have gone public with it. Derrick was not shy about outlining Josh's deficiencies to newspapers. I can tell you that this is not true.I talked with Derrick at the end of that season. Josh and Jake and the DC crew off the boat by that time.
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Post by crabber on Apr 22, 2014 10:45:56 GMT -5
True Mari. I think they both have a issues they have not addressed. Josh does seem to go thru gf as quick as his cigs though. His daughter is cute and looks like Jake from the pic I saw. I wish them both the best and hope everything works out for them.
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Post by crabber on Apr 22, 2014 10:47:48 GMT -5
PS - Hope I did not offend anyone.
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Post by anitalalouise on Apr 22, 2014 11:54:20 GMT -5
No need to worry about offending people.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 22, 2014 13:13:44 GMT -5
No offense taken at all, crabber. And yeah, at this point their issues have issues.
Kingcove, which part wasn't true (?)
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Post by crabber on Apr 22, 2014 14:29:51 GMT -5
Thank you! Meri - I was wondering the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:25:56 GMT -5
Kingcove, which part wasn't true (?) That Derrick would have gone public if he knew there were drugs on the boat.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 22, 2014 21:45:25 GMT -5
Kingcove, which part wasn't true (?) That Derrick would have gone public if he knew there were drugs on the boat. Got it. I was referring to him going public about if Josh specifically had used drugs on the boat. He talked to newspapers about Jake being high, and talked about Josh's deficiencies as a fisherman to newspapers. And good for him for counteracting Discovery's original vague bs about what had happened.
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Post by doder on Apr 22, 2014 23:28:13 GMT -5
I can tell you that this is not true.I talked with Derrick at the end of that season. Josh and Jake and the DC crew off the boat by that time. after season 7 derrick ray did an interview on a local radio station which had interviewed phil several times by the same host. during the interview the host said he knew phil well and "all the harris men had issues with drug usage". i took that to mean phil and josh as well as jake.
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Post by svtubamom on Apr 23, 2014 7:53:58 GMT -5
I always felt that Derrick Ray was given a very raw deal by Discovery and the Harris boys. They made Derrick out to be a bad guy when it was actually the Harris'. Derrick was only doing it as a favor-to CM herself and the crew. He and the crew are the ones that were screwed over badly just for tv drama.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 23, 2014 7:58:30 GMT -5
after season 7 derrick ray did an interview on a local radio station which had interviewed phil several times by the same host. during the interview the host said he knew phil well and "all the harris men had issues with drug usage". i took that to mean phil and josh as well as jake. Oh yeah, Phil had admitted both on the show and in print interviews that he was a drug user, and I'd bet my retirement fund that Josh has used as well. In fact, I'd bet on a couple of other guys on DC having used or using recreationally. Jake's problem is that he is beyond recreational use, and actually physically needs them to get through the day. His brain chemistry no longer allows him to be able to stop without serious medical supervision.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 23, 2014 8:00:50 GMT -5
What the heck is going on with the quoting function on this thread???
I'll try playing with it tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2014 11:18:13 GMT -5
I always felt that Derrick Ray was given a very raw deal by Discovery and the Harris boys. They made Derrick out to be a bad guy when it was actually the Harris'. Derrick was only doing it as a favor-to CM herself and the crew. He and the crew are the ones that were screwed over badly just for tv drama. The whole Derrick storyline was pretty much BS,and fabricated for DC drama. Derrick went on to finish the season without the DC crew or Jake and Josh on board. Derrick is one of the DC guys that I have known the longest,and know him to be very professional and a very good fisherman.
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Post by sciencer on Apr 23, 2014 13:30:09 GMT -5
Thanks King Cove for confirming what I always thought, that Derrick was a straight shooter.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 23, 2014 19:40:02 GMT -5
Slight threadjack. The nested quotes will sometimes come out screwy if you accidently type your answers within the quote brackets. To get the quotes to line up, be sure your typing outside the previous quote brackets. Back to your regularly schedule debates.
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Post by crabber on Apr 23, 2014 19:51:07 GMT -5
This has noting to do with the show last might. Nut, I show on the spoiler blog the B & N Seafood has an interest in the CM(as per the Irish Captain). Wasn't that person on the DC board at one time? Just wondering.
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Post by bentwillow on Apr 24, 2014 9:47:41 GMT -5
I always felt that Derrick Ray was given a very raw deal by Discovery and the Harris boys. They made Derrick out to be a bad guy when it was actually the Harris'. Derrick was only doing it as a favor-to CM herself and the crew. He and the crew are the ones that were screwed over badly just for tv drama. The whole Derrick storyline was pretty much BS,and fabricated for DC drama. Derrick went on to finish the season without the DC crew or Jake and Josh on board. Derrick is one of the DC guys that I have known the longest,and know him to be very professional and a very good fisherman. EGAD......you are telling us that Derrick finished the season and we were lead to believe that the CM was done for the year? What a bunch of DC do-do......why would they do that?? It would have been far better if DC had told the truth. Now their credibility is really ruined as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Apr 24, 2014 20:35:28 GMT -5
All the other captains had nothing but good things to say about Derrick and his abilities. Far as I'm concerned that was when J and J showed they're true nature and I lost all respect for them.
Kingcove, is Derrick still fishing at all?
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Post by TDXI on Apr 25, 2014 2:33:58 GMT -5
I always felt that Derrick Ray was given a very raw deal by Discovery and the Harris boys. They made Derrick out to be a bad guy when it was actually the Harris'. Derrick was only doing it as a favor-to CM herself and the crew. He and the crew are the ones that were screwed over badly just for tv drama. Derrick was the bad guy unless you were watching a completely different show to the rest of us. The fact is he just couldn't catch crab. All his talk about jake taking drugs was just to deflect from his own failings let's face it the whole crew could have snorted a kilo of coke each or behaved like monks and it wouldn't have made any difference to the fact he was a shit captain.
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Post by Maribegood on Apr 25, 2014 7:17:24 GMT -5
Sounds to me that you were the one watch a different show than the rest of us TDXI. The source above is impeccable, after Jake ran away and Josh left the boat, Derrick caught all the crab the boat had quota for. I don't blame you for thinking the other way, because it is pretty obvious Discovery has turned into a bunch of lying liars who lie in the editing room, and not just about what happened on the CM.
Listen to what others are telling you here. NONE of the other Deadliest Catch captains had a bad thing to say about Derrick, and most of them had very good things to say even after this mess went down. It's OK to admit people you like or admire disappointed you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 9:30:04 GMT -5
All the other captains had nothing but good things to say about Derrick and his abilities. Far as I'm concerned that was when J and J showed they're true nature and I lost all respect for them. Kingcove, is Derrick still fishing at all? Derrick once was part owner of the Siberian Sea,which was built by the original owners of the Kiska Sea. It was very similar to the Kiska and a very nice boat. I believe it was sold on the buyback program some years ago. He then helped build a smaller boat very similar in design to the Kiska and Siberian,but smaller and designed for longlining cod and halibut. I'm not sure what he's doing now.I have not seen him since the was on the CM. I will be back in Alaska next week,and will ask around.
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Post by svtubamom on Apr 25, 2014 9:32:38 GMT -5
I always felt that Derrick Ray was given a very raw deal by Discovery and the Harris boys. They made Derrick out to be a bad guy when it was actually the Harris'. Derrick was only doing it as a favor-to CM herself and the crew. He and the crew are the ones that were screwed over badly just for tv drama. Derrick was the bad guy unless you were watching a completely different show to the rest of us. The fact is he just couldn't catch crab. All his talk about jake taking drugs was just to deflect from his own failings let's face it the whole crew could have snorted a kilo of coke each or behaved like monks and it wouldn't have made any difference to the fact he was a shit captain. There are a couple of members on this board and there were several on The Discovery Boards that actually know these people and boats. When the OWNER of the CM came out and publicity stated that Derrick Ray was an excellent captain and she had NO problems with him at all. She trusted him enough, that he works with her. Too many that were on the CM stated that the boat was taken out strictly for filming. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it has been publicly state that the CM was only out for 10 days with Josh & Jake. That they only wanted to film not fish. His talking about Jake and the drugs was the truth. DC went out of their way to try to hide as much of that as they could. After everything that went down on the CM, the other captains BACKED Derrick Ray and said that what was shown is not what happened. Even Freddie left and has not gone back to the CM. Freddie was the most loyal to Phil and yet he was the most screwed deckhand they had. BTW, Derrick Ray had quota-so there would be no way that he would not catch crab. DC has always edited the show to make something to appear one way when in fact, it was the opposite. The facts are out there, if one is willing to look it up.
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