The Intelligent One
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Post by The Intelligent One on Jan 15, 2014 22:54:43 GMT -5
Obviously DC monitors this and deletes post. The show isn't the same without the CM, if you read forums that aren't owned by Discovery, the overwhelming majority want the CM back and Elliot gone. Get Real DC, you can't fool the intelligent ones.
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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 16, 2014 10:30:38 GMT -5
Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about. DC has nothing to do with the content of this forum, or what anyone posts. And what the "overwhelming majority" thinks about any given topic doesn't mean anything. Although this forum does by and large want Elliott gone.
Intelligent one seems to be a bit of a misnomer for you.
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 16, 2014 13:01:45 GMT -5
Get 'm anitalouise! I hate when some a-wipe comes along to show their ignorance.
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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 16, 2014 15:27:40 GMT -5
It's just so silly that there would be a conspiracy theory just because most of the people (not even all!) on this site disagree with what this yahoo considers to be the majority opinion it must be the NETWORK!!
Like majority opinion means anything anyway! Ultimately it's still an opinion. And if I am of the opinion that the Harris "boys" are not worth watching, how is my opinion wrong just because other people disagree? Or that my opinion would make the majority's wrong because it is different?
People should just think what they want. Want to watch them? Do it. Don't want to? Don't.
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Post by svtubamom on Jan 16, 2014 15:44:34 GMT -5
Trolls are out.
Even Discovery got an earful on their boards (before they closed the boards down) what the fans really thought about Josh, Jake and the CM. One thing I miss though, Mike Rowe with the captains. I loved it! I like the before the show last year but I would have liked an "after" with Mike so he could find out why they did what they did.
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Post by anitalalouise on Jan 16, 2014 17:34:07 GMT -5
Yeah I agree, they were fools to do away with After the Catch. That was great TV. The before the show thing was alright, but it was nothing as good as ATC. I miss Mike Rowe on TV.
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Post by crabber on Jan 16, 2014 19:55:37 GMT -5
Please forgive me, but I thought "The Bait" was pretty lame. I also like After The Catch better.
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Post by rosered74 on Jan 17, 2014 1:18:54 GMT -5
awww, i miss mr rowe on my tv. since dirty jobs was canceld, they could have had him on ATC. i hope they bring him back this year and not like they did last year
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Post by Andy17171 on Feb 17, 2014 11:55:20 GMT -5
ur all a bit Harsh - for those who have watched from the begining, it's always been clear that Jake was going to struggle, but give Josh his due, from day one on the CM and mostly with the lads on the TB he's been a presence... the hilstrands cut him lose to encourage him to stand on his own, not coz he was a slacker.
this show's never been just about the fishing, it's the crews that make it, warts and all and fact is, if there were no drama, there'd be no show.
I think it was shortsighted of the harris's to not accept any offer DC were offering as being in 'the pack' is where the CM belongs on it's own it's a floating soap opera....
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Post by svtubamom on Feb 17, 2014 17:10:26 GMT -5
ur all a bit Harsh - for those who have watched from the begining, it's always been clear that Jake was going to struggle, but give Josh his due, from day one on the CM and mostly with the lads on the TB he's been a presence... the hilstrands cut him lose to encourage him to stand on his own, not coz he was a slacker. this show's never been just about the fishing, it's the crews that make it, warts and all and fact is, if there were no drama, there'd be no show. I think it was shortsighted of the harris's to not accept any offer DC were offering as being in 'the pack' is where the CM belongs on it's own it's a floating soap opera.... They sure didn't sound that way when they were talking about letting him go. They said that they never knew which Josh was going to be there. He always seemed to want to be somewhere else. They made subtle remarks that made me to believe that he was not working like he should on the TB. I still stand my original statement that Josh is there only because of the cameras. If he was serious, he would do it away from the cameras but NO, he makes sure that there are cameras around or he whines like a baby because they are not. The show changed after the first season or so. It had to really change after the derby days were over. Either way, a lot of people were tired of Josh and his poor pitiful me and someone owes me attitude. I was done with him when he treated Derrick Ray like he did and everyone knows that Derrick did find drugs on the CM and because they belonged to Jake, Josh really tried to blame Derrick and claim that Derrick "planted" the drugs. Yeah, sure.... BTW, I started watching with the very first documentary/special that they did and I think it was part of the Deadliest Jobs in America, then became Deadliest Job to Deadliest Catch. Memory could be fuzzing as it has been over 10 years since the very first special aired.
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Post by crabber on Feb 18, 2014 10:53:01 GMT -5
I disagree with what Andy17171. In the beginning it looked like Jake was more serious about fishing. Josh always made it clear he was fishing just to spend time with his father and brother and be on tv. It sounded like the TB let Josh go due to his poor work: lack of interest, more concerned with PR appearances and partying. I thought DC did not sign the CM due to their having no quota before filming began last October. I was never a fan of Derek but he did get screwed. I also believe Jake was not the only person using drugs on that boat. We never hear anything about Jake but Josh seems to be all over the place. It will be interesting to see how things are covered by DC during opies season - they always put a spin on everything.
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Post by elguapo on Feb 18, 2014 11:42:11 GMT -5
Even after all this new drama concerning the Harris brothers,I still do not wish to see them on the show. I would rather they focus more on the NorthWestern.
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Post by Brent R on Mar 9, 2014 16:11:04 GMT -5
I don't really understand the negative comments on here. I seem to recall that after the failed first attempt with the CM, Sig Hansen said that they should have diversified and worked the boat as much as possible rather than just relying on crab fishing. I know that the Time Bandit works with fish also out of crab season. The statement from Josh was:
"We're starting out herring tendering; then we're going to move into salmon tendering. Then, from there, the boat will hopefully make its way down to Seattle. We will make some very significant repairs, another $500,000 in repairs."
That was back in May of last year. If they did the fish tendering then that follows what Sig was suggesting. Supposedly, they went out in January for Opie season. I realize that rushing to judgement is a popular sport but it doesn't seem to be needed. Everyone knows that CM is a big boat and an expensive boat to operate. There is no way that anyone can run that boat halfway without going bankrupt. People keep wondering how serious Josh is. It won't be hard to tell because if he isn't serious then he won't be running the boat December 2014; he'll be out of money and the boat will be in dock or sold to someone else. You can't fake it with a boat that size and everyone here knows it. So, you can either keep using your Ouija board and guessing what will happen or you can wait and see. I don't think there is any reason to speculate about the CM being on Deadliest Catch because no one here was in on the negotiations. And, it doesn't matter. The CM has to be a fishing boat first and on TV second, not the other way around. If CM doesn't make a go of it then they couldn't be on the show anyway. And, if they do manage to make enough money to pay their bills then they are successful whether they are on a show or not. Most of this is little more than false drama created by producers who are desperate to have an interesting show that is defined everyday by repetition. The 100th pot you drop off or pull up is not much different from the first one. Bait pot, drop pot, pull pot up, dump crabs, repeat--many, many, many times. Perhaps I can't blame them for resorting to personal issues for drama but it really isn't the nature of the industry.
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Post by svtubamom on Mar 10, 2014 15:01:51 GMT -5
Brent R, you should read the comments better. Most of us do not want to see the CM on the show. Most believe that IF Josh is serious, then he should concentrate on fishing and not allow the cameras. I believe that Josh is doing it only because of the cameras. Even Phil alluded to that-that Josh was there only because of the cameras.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 11:04:32 GMT -5
"We're starting out herring tendering; then we're going to move into salmon tendering. Then, from there, the boat will hopefully make its way down to Seattle. We will make some very significant repairs, another $500,000 in repairs." They did in fact start last May with herring, and went on to salmon tendering. I don't think the boat ended up in Seattle, but I don't know for sure. I think they went to Kodiak and did some work to the boat. They will be tendering herring again in May and most likely will be tendering salmon again. To the best of my knowledge Josh is managing the business operations while Casey runs the boat.
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Post by anitalalouise on Mar 11, 2014 11:34:52 GMT -5
Exactly. When Josh says "we" he doesn't mean he is on the boat learning to fish. And if they show him on the boat "learning" to fish opies, I'm just not buying it. Josh is on the boat to be on TV, not to learn to be a fisherman. And I believe that's the reason he isn't on the TB anymore.
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Post by svtubamom on Mar 12, 2014 9:04:18 GMT -5
Thank you King, you are always a wealth of information. But I do have a question, when you say that Josh is managing the business side, does that mean that he is not on the CM when she is tendering? He is just on the CM when the cameras are there?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 9:17:10 GMT -5
Thank you King, you are always a wealth of information. But I do have a question, when you say that Josh is managing the business side, does that mean that he is not on the CM when she is tendering? He is just on the CM when the cameras are there? He was not on board last spring or summer. At that time Casey said that Josh could not get insured due to lack of experience,and he intended to train Josh to run the boat. I don't know whether or not Josh was on board for crab. There are many boat owners in the industry that do not run their boats.There are also some that only run their boat for crab. I know one owner that bought a boat then worked on deck on that boat until he had the experience to run the boat. Now he is partners in several boats,including the Ramblin Rose, and he only runs one boat,and only for king crab. A successful boat needs someone on the beach to run the business side.
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Post by svtubamom on Mar 13, 2014 13:54:51 GMT -5
King, I know that they would need someone good on land to run a successful business. I had read somewhere else that Josh was on board during crab season. that went in hand with the DC cameras being on the CM.
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Post by rosered74 on Mar 13, 2014 17:56:26 GMT -5
of course josh was on board, cameras were present
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Post by crabber on Mar 14, 2014 8:56:01 GMT -5
Josh was not on board for the tendering in spring and summer. He toured around for the book on his father. He was on board for king crab when they were not filmed and for opies when they were filmed. Thank you King Cove the always are a wealth of information. So you have any idea whats up with Jake ? Pic I saw show he was not a crew member for either season. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 10:39:53 GMT -5
Josh was not on board for the tendering in spring and summer. He toured around for the book on his father. He was on board for king crab when they were not filmed and for opies when they were filmed. Thank you King Cove the always are a wealth of information. So you have any idea whats up with Jake ? Pic I saw show he was not a crew member for either season. Thanks! Last I heard about Jake was from Casey last May and at that time all he said was that Jake was not ready to be involved with the boat.
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Post by dovecote on Mar 14, 2014 13:29:34 GMT -5
Thank you King, you are always a wealth of information. But I do have a question, when you say that Josh is managing the business side, does that mean that he is not on the CM when she is tendering? He is just on the CM when the cameras are there? He was not on board last spring or summer. At that time Casey said that Josh could not get insured due to lack of experience,and he intended to train Josh to run the boat. I don't know whether or not Josh was on board for crab. There are many boat owners in the industry that do not run their boats.There are also some that only run their boat for crab. I know one owner that bought a boat then worked on deck on that boat until he had the experience to run the boat. Now he is partners in several boats,including the Ramblin Rose, and he only runs one boat,and only for king crab. A successful boat needs someone on the beach to run the business side.
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Post by dovecote on Mar 14, 2014 13:32:24 GMT -5
I remember Phil saying that Jake should stay with fishing and Josh should go into the business side. Maybe at least he is doing what his father recommended. Good grief, I do miss Phil.
Sorry for the above - I was trying to do a quote and screwed up. More coffee...
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Post by svtubamom on Mar 14, 2014 14:04:55 GMT -5
DC is releasing the info on the CM & Josh being back on the show.
Which, IMO, proves what we have been saying all along-Josh is only there for the cameras.
Now, I will have more to fast forward in DC-the Saga & now the CM.
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Post by dovecote on Mar 14, 2014 15:03:00 GMT -5
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Post by lindsey on Apr 14, 2014 13:48:18 GMT -5
Jake may just be screwing around but I see no reason to underestimate Josh. Its pretty clear that discovery must have given them a low ball offer because lets face it, they didnt know what they could really expect out of the cornelia marie. When fans found out the cornelia wasnt on the lineup for season 10 discovery could hardly fail to realize that there was going to be a problem. They must have come to the conclusion that bringing the Cornelia back was worth the gamble after all and made a real offer, because logically thats the only reason that the Harris brothers would change their minds after already announcing their decision. People are failing to remember that running a boat is very costly and toting along a camera crew is an inconvenience. To claim that they turned down the first offer out of greed or entitlement is purely silly because obviously they couldnt afford to turn down a reasonable offer, whereas turning down an unreasonable offer would be, and clearly was, the right choice.
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Post by crabber on Apr 16, 2014 10:30:36 GMT -5
Dovecote, my computer blocked the site coming up. So, we all assumed it was a money issue. How much did DC offer Josh for King Crab season that he refused ? What ever it was he was offered a lot more money for opies.
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Post by anitalalouise on Apr 16, 2014 13:01:01 GMT -5
Have we seen any indication that what they were offered for opies was more than they offered for king crab? Maybe after they discovered that Discovery wasn't holding their breath for the CM they took what was offered.
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Post by doder on Apr 16, 2014 18:42:46 GMT -5
josh is pimping the book about phil as well as other merchandise. he needs to keep phils name in the public's mind as well as his own for paid personal appearances.
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