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Post by sissyhouse on Sept 24, 2013 21:27:47 GMT -5
So happy to see some other people who believe that the "boys" should not still be riding their father's coattails. And the cameras should not be on the boat. If they truely mean to be fishermen in a league with their Dad, they need to be fishermen not tv stars. God knows they have done little with all the opportunities that have been thrown at them. If you have a dissenting opinion, DO NOT take it to the "sweethearts of the deadliest catch" One other person and I started a firestorm by speaking against the "boys". They have now closed the discussion and are not allowing any more replies.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 24, 2013 21:43:18 GMT -5
Not sure about "sweethearts of deadliest catch" but the members here are intelligent adults and not giddy fanbots. We may have our favorites but for the most part call it as we see it. The boys 15 min of fame has or should have come and gone. They should've just shut up and fished.
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Post by rosered74 on Sept 25, 2013 0:33:58 GMT -5
in other news pertant to the CM, on FB travis loftland sais he was going crabbing this year on, guess where, the CM. now, how did they manage to get quotas?
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Post by anitalalouise on Sept 25, 2013 8:08:30 GMT -5
I like Travis, and he was a good fisherman. What's he doing on *that* boat? I think we need King Cove to find out about the quota they do or do not have.
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Post by elguapo on Sept 25, 2013 13:47:37 GMT -5
I wish the Harris men luck, but I do not want to watch them. If they are serious fishermen, then they will not worry about the lack of cameras. And surely Travis could find a better job than the one on the Cornelia Marie.
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 25, 2013 15:51:18 GMT -5
"Sweethearts of Deadliest Catch" is another group. Erie was a member. That is where I learned of her passing. Didn't know that they were trying to get everyone to sign a petition to get the CM on DC. I still firmly believe that DC should NOT be on the CM this season. Let them prove that they want to be fishermen and not "reality" tv stars. Still can't believe that they have come up with some quota. Wonder how much and who generously leased it to them? Hope they got paid a lot for it. Next question is, did Josh pull the "but you promised" card out on Freddy? I really hope that Freddy stays where he is at. He is making so much more money with Keith than he ever did on the CM. The Wizard would have more quota thus more money to be made by the deckhands.
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Post by svtubamom on Sept 25, 2013 15:52:25 GMT -5
I like Travis, and he was a good fisherman. What's he doing on *that* boat? I think we need King Cove to find out about the quota they do or do not have. Maybe that is the only boat that would have Travis. Did he even fish last season? I don't recall seeing him after he was fired from the TB.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 25, 2013 16:16:04 GMT -5
Travis was fired from the TB for his hard partying if I remember correctly, but he maintained a decent relationship with everyone, or so it seems. He is a good crabber. Confused about him choosing the CM, but he may have limited options and misses that life up there. I wondered how Josh was able to not only get quota but get insured? Lets put a APB out on kingcove...
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Post by sissyhouse on Sept 25, 2013 20:06:53 GMT -5
What I had read was that the underwriting insurance company would NOT underwrite the boat with Josh or Jake as captain of record. That is why they had to have an experienced captain on board "running" the boat. We saw Jake do a few turns at the wheel with Derrick but I have never seen a shot of Josh so much as doing wheel watch. That is why I could not believe these rabid Phil fans who believe that he rose 3 days later in Josh/Jake can keep on spouting how the boys are ready to captain the boat and that they have all the experience that they need to run the boat. I cannot imagine Travis signing on with Josh and Jake actually running the boat alone. I assume this will be something similiar to the Jake Anderson on the Kiska Sea arrangement. I would be interested to find out if either J or J actually work the deck this season.
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Post by crabber on Sept 25, 2013 20:56:22 GMT -5
I didn't think they would be long w/out the quota. Lets see how long it takes for DC to change their mind- not long I bet.
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Post by jacourt on Sept 25, 2013 21:40:38 GMT -5
Please Discovery do not reward these two for their incompetent behaviors and sense of entitlement.
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Post by crabber on Sept 26, 2013 5:33:16 GMT -5
Maybe Keith gave Josh some quota to keep Freddy. How much does it cost to lease quota ? Expect an announcement that the CM is back on the show soon.
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Post by crabber on Sept 26, 2013 5:39:32 GMT -5
Maybe Keith gave Josh some quota to keep Freddy. How much does it cost to lease quota ? Expect an announcement that the CM is back on the show soon.
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Post by crabber on Sept 26, 2013 5:42:26 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post -computer acting up.
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Post by brizo on Sept 26, 2013 9:31:08 GMT -5
First time posting here. And HI! To the topic - Anyone else hopes the boys make a successful comeback? And not for the image. Not for the "show". Not even for their late father ( RIP ) .. But for themselves. To hear the other Captains and fishermen talk, that is something that runs through their veins. Passed down from one generation to the next. It's a way of life. I believe both Josh and Jake have that. But first thing's first. Baby brother NEEDS to get clean and stay clean. There's no other way around it. And maybe the halt of filming, maybe not having the lime light on them will help them stay in line of what needs to be done. The less distractions they have, the better motivated they will become. And if they feel they can NOT achieve this, or lack the desire, they need to hand the CM over to someone else. Just my opinion.
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Post by anitalalouise on Sept 26, 2013 9:45:42 GMT -5
Hi Brizo - Welcome!
I think most people would like then to be successful. But success as a fisherman doesn't mean they need to be on TV. I would rather they left the show and learned how to fish. That would be success, and also honoring their family legacy if that's what they want.
I believe the consensus here is that they are only interested as long as they get on TV. And to be honest if they do go on Deadliest Catch and Jake is less than 100% clean I will be done with the show.
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Post by brizo on Sept 26, 2013 11:25:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the warm welcome. And yeah. I agree. That's why I was saying it might be a great improvement to all angles if avoid the lime light. And if it's all they're after, we will soon find out. I'm usually the cynical one. I'm usually the one to wash my hands of a dooming situation. But I have to root for them. Some of their stories hit home for me. And it seem very hopeless for me. I had one person who backed me 100% ... Rooted for the underdog. And the underdog prevailed. So .. I want to believe they can overcome anything and do what needs to be done... For themselves. I'm fairly certain we've not heard the last of the Harris Brothers. So we shall see.
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Post by sciencer on Sept 26, 2013 14:05:57 GMT -5
brizo the quote under your picture says it all: 'you gotta EARN IT!. If you take a look at some of the older threads on this board you will find lots of discussioms on this topic. People were on both sides of the fence and everyone was, for the most part, very civil. "Agreeing to disagree" and "We shall see" seem to be the philosphies of the posters.
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Post by sissyhouse on Sept 26, 2013 18:50:18 GMT -5
I don't mean to shoot the flames of hell at them. We have watched them forever. What I think would be totally appropriate would be some cameo type shots.... heading out of port to the sea with a narrative by one of them.... back in port at the dock unloading the crab and doing some chatter. I believe that everyone wants them to do well. I just wish they would be more honest in what they are after. Personally I love a good underdog story and I wish them well.
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Post by crabber on Sept 26, 2013 21:26:07 GMT -5
I agree. Jake was fishing before he was on the show. Josh on the other hand did it to be on TV and with Phil. Last year Edgar said in the last show that he would not be fishing if he was not on the show. Josh has to decide what he really wants. If he really bought the CM then he has spent a ton of money for something he better be serious about. If Jake can get his act together he may be the more serious and better fisherman of the two. Being away from TV may just be the best thing for them. However, I think Josh counted on the money from DC to help finance the boat. I guess we'll see.
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Post by Maribegood on Sept 27, 2013 9:48:31 GMT -5
"Last year Edgar said in the last show that he would not be fishing if he was not on the show." Read more: deadliestcatch.freeforums.net/thread/222/discovery-cornelia-marie?page=4#ixzz2g6UszKrpI don't remember Edgar saying anything of the sort on After the Catch. I remember Edgar saying that he would believe the CM was back to fishing after he actually saw her on the water. OH WAIT, did you mean Edgar himself would not be fishing if not for the show? That I remember. Me, personally, I could care less if Josh was motivated to go on the show because cameras were there. While his father was still alive, he never claimed to be on the CM for any other reasons than to make money and spend time with his father. After all, Jonathan Hillstrand normally captained another boat during Opies, so he is obviously there during Opies for rhe cameras as well. What bothers me and pisses me off about what Josh Harris is doing is that he seems to have bought the CM for the sole purpose of staying on the show. I'm vary sympathetic to a kid wanting to carry on the family business, but that is NOT what it looks like is happening here. He seems to care more about getting taped than making the CM a viable business. I want to see a working boat, not an entitled brat. Plenty of those I can watch without sending a monthly payment to Comcast.
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Post by elguapo on Sept 27, 2013 9:53:21 GMT -5
If Josh is a true friend of Freddy, then he should NOT ask or pressure Freddy to come back to the Cornelia Marie. Josh should release Freddy from any obligation or reverence that Freddy feels concerning the boat and Phil. Freddy has a wife and baby now and certainly needs the money he can make on the Wizard. No way Josh could match that money. So if Josh pushes the "honour" thing and influences Freddy to take less money, then I will lose some respect for Josh.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 28, 2013 11:48:52 GMT -5
I lost respect for Josh after his treatment of Derrick Ray. Derrick used the tough love approach to shake him back into reality. Josh nor the legion of Harris fans were ready for that and Capt Derrick was vilified. As much as I missed Phil, I understood what Derrick was trying to do.
I think Freddy is smart enough to stick with Keith, especially with the responsibilities of a his new young family. Josh has a child now too. He should be putting her needs first and WORK for it. Not chase some celebrity fantasy.
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Post by crabber on Sept 28, 2013 13:40:22 GMT -5
I also think Freddy is smart enough to stick with Keith. He can't afford to give up 100,000+ with a baby to support. I still think the saga with the CM and DC is not over yet. I also saw on another post Murray will be captain on the Cape Caution. Josh has not been posting anything and Jake never posts anything(some post said he has been in long term rehab). The soap opera continues !
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 28, 2013 16:48:09 GMT -5
I also saw on another post Murray will be captain on the Cape Caution! \ Really? Where did you see that? I'm confused. What about Bill? Man I hope he's not going to the CM.
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Post by jc836 on Sept 28, 2013 18:11:32 GMT -5
I would think that Murray would Engineer the CM as Casey is the Captain of record right now. Bill appears to be returning to the Cape Caution based on his posts on Facebook. As to Josh and Derrick, that story line was a bad fit for everyone. Tony Lara tried to be more like Phil (RIP) and with a lack of quota and funding did not bring in enough either.
The real story will be whether Josh can get enough funding to do do a full season. This means he must buy/lease quota. It also means do so with money up front. Is it conceivable that the young Hillstrand will leave his dad and fish with Josh? That could be a story line too. As for Jake H-hope he can get it together and be part of the boat's return at some point. Just some ramblings
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Post by Maribegood on Sept 29, 2013 8:41:04 GMT -5
I'll believe Murray is coming back when I see him on TV. He was absolutely disgusted with Discovery's manipulation of story lines, and if I recall correctly his wife was publically vocal about that on her Facebook page. I think people are reaching.
JMHO, it is inconceivable that Scotty Hillstrand would leave the TB to fish on the CM. The CM has no quota. Even if they could get some quota at the 11th hour, it would be nowhere near the quota the TB has. Scotty now has his cousin on board, so he can't just go off on a lark and expect that his place as Hillstrand of record for his generation will be enough to ensure his future leadership of the TB. I wonder if whoever Josh's "people" are this round they are blowing these rumors around like smoke to keep up interest.
Oh, and I saw the change.org petition for keeping the CM on the show. Lest we forget, the same CM of the current no quota status. Seriously, I would be embarrassed to sign a petition to keep a boat that has no crab quota on a show about crab fishing.
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Post by anitalalouise on Sept 29, 2013 10:21:22 GMT -5
I do believe Murray still fishes. I do not believe Murray will ever fish on DC anymore. And yeah, Scotty will never leave the TB.
The more I see of this thread, the less I wan to see of the CM or the Harris "boys". My belief is that John & Andy kicked Josh off the boat so he would start worrying about fishing and stop worrying about TV. Looks like he still doesn't get it.
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Post by sciencer on Sept 29, 2013 12:51:05 GMT -5
I thought Murry returned to his home in NM to run a business of some sort. I seem to recall something along those lines, although it wouldn't prevent him from fishing/crabbing part-time.
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Post by greatlakesgirl on Sept 29, 2013 17:18:30 GMT -5
last I heard Murray was skippering a boat called the Blue Ballard. Well we do know that Travis took a job on the CM. Maybe Josh can just go around hiring a band of merry ex DC misfits..Clinton Bush, Russell Newberry, who else? Lol
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